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Old 09-30-2004, 11:48 AM   #184 (permalink)
wilbjammin
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Originally Posted by adysav
That's my point, noone else can see their inconsistencies. If someone else states that most people believe one thing, then great, it must be so. If I state that most people believe something else, I'm being inconsistent and my argument is flawed. Every statement I make must be backed up, citing sources and such, but someone else can get away with 'most people say so'.
Which is it to be?
No, we were talking about two different things. I was talking about public opinion towards something, not whether there was some sort of factual basis for that opinion. You're changing the subject by responding tangentially, so let's try this again:

You are saying that society believes something so it is true because decisions are made upon those beliefs.

I was saying that society believes something so if you want change to occur regarding that belief it is incombent upon the person to provide very convincing evidence to change that belief.

These are not the same things at all.

Now, for this:

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Given the lack of actual evidence to the contrary and the status of a legal ruling, it seems reasonable.
Why? Other than, "because you said so". I happen to see quite a few problems with our court systems due to the ability of judges and juries to make decisions based on stereotypes, biases, and prejudices - not to mention that the punishments/settlements tend to be very arbitrary in their terms.

There are serious problems with using divorce cases as a study into natural predisposition of humans. First, divorce cases are instances of failures of things working out between two adults, it has nothing to do with what makes for the best parenting for kids. Often the arrangements are made that the father has to pay child support and the woman keeps the children because the male earns more money and can support the child financially, and the woman can spend more time with the child. Does that have anything do with a nature predisposition?

I could keep going, but I have to go teach a few classes. I'm sure that there will be more to respond to eventually, and if necessary I will go into further depth into why your process of determining whether women or men are better parents is flawed.
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