I don't recall what show I was listening too. I'm guessing it was Coast to Coast. A show I don't tend to walk away from having changed my mind about most things. But a nice conversation starter. The subject that time did peak my interest enough that when I read this thread I remembered is all.
Right now my overall opinion on this issue is that pollution needs to be controlled but that there often tends to be a little over-hype from the green community pushing their agenda. (Funny example was the lady accusing Americans of killing babies by driving SUV's and supporting terrorism as she flew on a private plane from speaking location to location lol. My point? They can be full of shit)
As to the debate that you and Ustwo have been having for awhile now, I am still listening. I don't have any kind of background in this field and have never really studied it to much degree at all.
I see your point about the "zen" (as ustwo put it I believe) of having too much c02 causing warming. I also (as stated recently in another thread) tend to take any info I hear with a grain of salt. While you may be able to list 1000 sources that believe exactly the same way that doesn't change the fact that they can have agendas or be over looking something relevant that could prove them false.
What you posted above sounds very credible to me. However that last part...
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Originally Posted by Superbelt
This is all irrefutable, observable evidence and along with the physics of carbon (it's heat absorbing properties) blows to shit any argument that says global warming RIGHT NOW is a natural process.
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I consider your opinion based on the data you've seen. While it is a valid opinion at the very least I'm not going to take it for fact just yet. You know, the whole grain of salt thing... Cause you know. Just because A=B and B=C A doesn't always =C.