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Originally Posted by Superbelt
You should revise that as it sounds to me, through your writing that you imply the Christian God and Islamic God are two separate concepts. Islam and Hindu should not be lumped together. You should be replacing "Follow that God" with "Follow that set of religious tenets." You do know that (for the most part) Islam is the same as Christianity except for Jesus being demoted to a major prophet and Mohammad being the final revelation, right?
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Yes I suppose I could have written it more correctly. I could argue that what an islamic extremist feels his God asks of him and what a typical Christian feels his God expects of him are often VERY radically different! So different that they could not possibly be the same being. To avoid confusion when discussing different views of the same concept of "God" it is easy to refer to "them" as the islamic God or the Christian God.
One could argue that if working on a car is the most important thing in a person's life, that the car is their God. Or that being a forum whore all day makes the forums that persons God. This is not a new expression and I did not invent it. Using this terminology I feel free to "Lump" any groups as I choose. Further more, I'll lump whoever I choose if I feel it helps to illustrate a point. Guess it didn't help you and perhaps anyone. But it was intentional. Thanks for the PC lesson though
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Originally Posted by Superbelt
Also, from this statement, "It's when they say that YOU also must follow that God or be killed that it becomes an issue.", It seems like you don't understand what has happened.
Al Qaeda did not attack us because we are Christian. Al Qaeda attacked us because they saw western society encroaching on Islamic nations again. They had just gotten rid of us in the 1960's with the end of colonialism. People like Osama saw America trying to start that up again in the first Gulf War, especially with the establishment of military bases. 9/11 is based on cultural protectionism, not religious fevor.
For that reason Bush's statement of "They hate us for our freedom" is so disgusting. It just shows that we have learned nothing from 9/11 and our leadership has absolutely no idea of how to deal with the Arabic psyche. And that right there is where the real "War on Terror" needs to be fought.
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Perhaps I did make a mistake in what happened. In truth I can't at the moment remember the exact reason for the rape, torture and slaughter or innocent lives. However, you are talking about Al Qaeda. I didn't mention Al Qaeda did I? I was talking about Saddam and his actions in his own country. Thanks for your view of how we deserved to be attacked on 9/11 though.
Sorry, you CAN NOT justify targetting civilians for political or religious reasons to me. We may not understand their psyche, but they do not understand ours either if they felt that their actions would in any way make things better.
And yes, I have every intention of watching the debates. I hope it will answer many questions. However, memorizing a few lines for a night of scripted responses will not sway 100%. His many interviews, written statements as well as his voting record speak volumes beyond a night or two of speeches and responses to scripted questions.
On a personal note, do you believe in Kerry yourself? Are you a Kerry supporter or a bush hater?