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Originally Posted by Superbelt
How will this community respond if myself and several other posters who have been trying to fight back and explain away this bull start a new line? We could make 60% of the next thousand posts in this particular board about how Bush accepts large donations from special interests. Because of that he is no longer a man for the people and only a puppet for his funders. Ooh some could point out that Kerry has received large donations from special interests too, many times both Bush and Kerry both received the same amount from the same interest. We then ignore that, let the thread die and pick up in the next thread. Ad nauseum. How will the face of TFP_Politics look to the conservatives and Bush supporters then?
In conclusion, they are not personal attacks as much as they are our attempts to start a true dialogue and us expressing our displeasure at the constant dodge. Then again, I was for this post before I was against it.
/Choke
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I think these thoughts are probably how many on the "right" here in politics already see the board. There are probably twice as many anti Bush threads as anti Kerry threads (at least that's my perception I'd love to know a break down but am kind of lazy today and don't want to attempt to figure it out).
The number of lies and flat out misrepresentations about Bush in this campaign are staggering. The number done to Kerry is miniscule in comparison. Perhaps that's a factor of how many potential Democratic candidates there were in the field with all of them trying to make their mark by criticizing their opponents (both Bush and the other Dems). Part of it is certainly the deep seated anger that many on the "left" feel towards Bush. I am in no way defending the misrepresentations about Kerry but have a tough time feeling sympathy or being motivated to shout them down when the campaign to oust Bush has been using these tactics since Bush was elected.
FWIW, I think it would be great if all sides in TFP would acknowledge that "their" side does some stupid and untruthful things. Rather than only pointing to the "other" side as an example, how about criticizing both for the actions they take that we disagree with?
I think the Vietnam issue is a perfect example. You have the Republicans claiming that Kerry didn't earn his medals despite having gone through the proper military channels. And you have the Democrats claiming that Bush didn't complete his Guard duties despite having gone through the proper military channels. Their defense of their candidates is exactly the same "They went through the proper military channels, so you should accept it." Instead of recognizing the faulty logic being applied by both sides everyone argues endlessly about the details of each.