Thread: Flip-Flop
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Old 09-29-2004, 06:32 AM   #23 (permalink)
Superbelt
This vexes me. I am terribly vexed.
 
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I wouldn't say, at least what I am doing, is a personal attack. So if you weren't pinpointing me, forget I posted this. I am making very valid points about the state of this community over the past month. Having a discussion about changing positions by candidates is all well and good. We can have that. But there comes a point where it is just spam.

The discussion started, and 'we' trotted out clear information about Bush doing the exact same thing. I just spent the past hour reading over every thread in the politics board with the word flip in it. Only onetime has addressed this point whatsoever that I can see. The way things ARE is, The flip-flop charge is brought out, Kerry is mocked. We then provide the context for the perceived flip. Context for issues Such as the "for the $87 Billion before I was against it", are so obvious that you need only a minute to understand where he is coming from. Kerry's statement is ambiguous, as a soundbite, but once you understand the background it becomes clear.
Or, we bring massive lists of how Bush has done the so called 'flip-flop'. Such as the campaign promise of no nation building, then we build a nation. He promised to leave the SS surplus alone, now it is distributed in his tax cuts.
We can bring this up time and again and it is ignored. Some choose to remain on a soapbox with their fingers in their ears and continue to shout it. At this point the flip-flop issue has ceased to become a discussion and remains only two sides yelling at each other. That's not what this board is for. "It's nyah-nyah your daddy's a poopyhead, I can't hear you!"

How will this community respond if myself and several other posters who have been trying to fight back and explain away this bull start a new line? We could make 60% of the next thousand posts in this particular board about how Bush accepts large donations from special interests. Because of that he is no longer a man for the people and only a puppet for his funders. Ooh some could point out that Kerry has received large donations from special interests too, many times both Bush and Kerry both received the same amount from the same interest. We then ignore that, let the thread die and pick up in the next thread. Ad nauseum. How will the face of TFP_Politics look to the conservatives and Bush supporters then?

In conclusion, they are not personal attacks as much as they are our attempts to start a true dialogue and us expressing our displeasure at the constant dodge. Then again, I was for this post before I was against it.
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