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Old 09-28-2004, 06:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
Ustwo
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Originally Posted by willravel
Ahahaha. That cheese reffrence is pretty funny. I see the connection as clear as day.


And....you lost me. As much good as forced labor would be from a scientific standpoint, this plan lacks morality. You, just as no other person, has the right to rule all. Any one person who has (a God complex) the want to rule all people is considered to be insane. History has already showed us that a totalitarian government is less effective than deomcracy, even if the democracy is severly corrupted. We also lack the law enforcement to deal with the MASS protests that will result in such a fundamental shift in lifestyle. I wouldn't mind doing a few years of labor to earn the right to vote, but I'm very much alone on even that.
Well you did lose me allright. WE are already in forced labor. You know what tax freedom day is? Its the day the average American has to work to in order to pay their taxes off. Currently its April 11th. That means that from Jan 1 to April 11, YOU work for the government. They take that money from you. If you don't pay you go to jail. Taxes or forced labor, same thing, your choise is to pay, to go to jail, or join the unproductive.


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Here we see a 'lack of morality' rear it's ugly head. Do you think those who are dependant of the goverment deserve to die? I don't think either of us is qualified to make such a decision. We can be mad at people for being dependant on the system, but the death of millions is hardly fair punishment.

Okay, you are thinking. THAT'S GOOD. I appreciate that you are trying to do something to solve some clear and present dangers that our world faces. More people need to take an active role in changing the world. Personally, along your line of thinking, I think it would be interesting to pinpoint certian genes that bring out murder or addictive tendancies, and not allow them to be passed on to the next generation; that is, not allow people with these genes reproduce. After a few generations, we may be able to prevent people who have severe mental disorders and such from ever existing. That is if we can't simply control the reproductive process. Sound good? Well, again we lose sight of morality.

The bottom line is this: science, logic, and morality have to play a vital role in the actions we take to try and fix our worlds problems. Without one, the others fall.
Ok now you really lost it. I never said millions SHOULD die, what I said is when the system falls down millions WILL. This isn't punishment, its just economics. Not enough food, to many mouths. I'm not sure what post you were reading but I don't think it was mine at the end there
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