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Old 09-28-2004, 12:21 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by K-Wise
(Let me note that I am not responding with anger or lashing out on you. I'm simply enlightening you to the falacy of your statements in hopes to give you a better understanding of a true Christian belief.)
Well you certainly did what you did not intend. Just more proof that Christians will bash others who do not agree with their religion.

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I can't argue it? Think about what you just said. Do you even know who Christ is? Christ is basically the human manifestation of all that God represents. So how is it that the only way to God through him is a hypocrisy in and of itself? I don't think you quite grasp the definition of hypocrisy enough to be throwing the word around so authoritatively. Maybe you should look it up again.

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Do I know who Christ is. To me he is nothing but a mere story that was put together by man to make us believe in a higher power so we can live in peace...too bad that idea failed miserably. I have come to this conclusion partly because there is no historical record of Jesus. Therefore I wont believe something just because the Church wants me to. Even if that were not the case though, I probably would still not believe for the sheer hypocrisy I explain below ( you know, the one that I don’t know the meaning of).

So you say Christ is a manifestation of god in human form, which basically means he IS God. Unless I am completely missing something here, the bible seems to state otherwise. I listed quotes below, why don’t you try and change those into another meaning as well. Maybe Jesus just enjoys speaking in both third and first person for fun.


John 7:16 "Jesus answered them and said, 'My doctrine is not mine, but His who sent me.' "

John 14:24 "He who does not love me does not keep my words; and the word which you hear is not mine but The Father's who sent me."

John 12:49 "For I have not spoken on my own authority; but the Father who sent me gave me a command, what I should say and what I should speak."

John 4:34 "Jesus said to them, 'My food is to do the will of Him who sent me, and to accomplish His work.' "

John 6:38 "For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of Him who sent me."

Luke 22:42 "Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from me; nevertheless not my will, but Yours, be done."

Matthew 20:23 "...But sitting at my right hand or my left is not mine to give. That is for those to whom it has been reserved by my Father."

John 5:19 "Verily, verily I say unto you, the Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do..."

John 5:30 "I can of myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and my judgment is righteous, because I do not seek my own will but the will of the Father who sent me."

John 8:42 "Jesus said to them, 'If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded and came forth from God; I came not of my own accord, but He sent me.' "

John 15:2 "My Father takes away every branch in me that bears not fruit; he purges it; that it may bring forth more fruit."

John 8:31 "You are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God”

Mark 13:32 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only."

John 7:16 So Jesus answered them, "My teaching is not mine, but His who sent me."

My comment about hypocrisy in that the only way to God is through Jesus (which are not the same) is that it denounces all other religions. If you are Muslim, Jew, etc, you will burn in hell.... why? Because you have not accepted Jesus as your Savior.

Please do enlighten me with your wisdom and knowledge, as I am nothing but a clueless idiot who doesn't know anything.

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