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I have been using a product called Ventaline for 2 months straight with a cycle of 2 months on 1 month off. It says it is a fat burner but it feels more like Ultimate Orange on roids. I was not able to lose any weight but I considerably lost fat and 2 inches offf my waist in 1 1/2 months. This is versus me taking ephedra free xendrine with a 1 month on 1 month off cycle. The ventaline helped me lose wieght because I was eating properly and had more intense workouts. Ventaline felt like an ephedra product!!! So far I have actually started losing pounds now becuase of a change in workout regimin (higher reps and cardio interval training) and have lost 6lbs since two weeks ago (not amazing but safe). So, to sum it up, i recommend ventaline because of the pump and energy it gives.
But,
1. It is expensive (for most - I paid $50 for 48 servings (5ml serving ina 240ml bottle)
2. It taste like crap... worst than bioburn wich taste like bad metumucil.
3.You need to apply with the provided "syringe type" applicator unless you want to use a spoon and get it all over your tounge.
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