Mo42,
Finally an argument that gets at the heart of the matter, very nice.
I too think (based purely on observation) that homosexuality is as much a due to nurture as it’s due to nature. Making homosexuality culturally acceptable will push the people who would normally suppress their natural tendencies and force themselves into pursuing heterosexual relationships.
Yet this is not necessarily a bad thing. I think that making homosexuality socially acceptable makes people happy because it allows them to live the lives they want to live without being shamed into doing something they don’t want too.
Procreation of genes is certainly a part of every living thing, yet we cannot force this on other people. There are other situations besides homosexuality where people choose not to have children and it would be wrong to steer people away from these paths.
So as Wilbjammin mentioned your (and most likely everyone’s) hope of having grandchildren is in conflict with the happiness of the individual. I just think it’s too weak of a case to stand up against making homosexuality socially acceptable; the margins of loss are too small. Sure it would be nice for our sons/daughters to have our grandchildren but that is their decision to make.
Adysav,
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gondath seems to have the point.
The definition of marriage people were using in order to bring homosexual union within it's boundaries does not exclude incestuous couples.
Basically "loving consenting adults". If you include one and not the other it is just a judgment based on your personal tastes.
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[sarcasm]…thanks, that is exactly what I mean by an “explanation of your augment that takes more then a few seconds to write”. [/sarcasm]
I get it (at least I hope that I do). You think same-sex marriage argument will also make incestuous marriages lawful. You claim that the “loving consenting adults” argument will do this. I claim it will not because even though incestuous couples may be “loving and consenting adults” there are still other problems with their relationship that must be eliminated - problems that same-sex marriages do no share. No once again can you PLEASE put some effort into actually explaining your argument and proving your point. I ask this because every time I reply to one of your posts I always have to guess at exatly what you are trying to prove.
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Please point out to me which of the following are exclusive to incest/polygamy (I'm including polygamy as FoolThemAll raised it again).
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As I already mentioned, it is believed that there are higher chances of these problems occurring within incestuous and/or polygamous relationships. That would the base of the lawful argument against them. It is these arguments that separate these issues and same-sex marriage. Same-sex marriages do not suffer from problems of being weak relationships, complicated custody/inheritance/divorce settlements, birth defects or abuse within the relationship any more then normal heterosexual marriages.