Jeff, I am curious what players you consider better? Like I said, the UI is a huge plus for me. I didn't mention this before, but the ability to use it on any machine as a portable Mass Media device is a large plus as well. I don't like having to use some software to move songs onto the device.
sixate, I looked up the Nomad Zen Xtra, and you are right about the price. It is easily 100$ cheaper for the 60 gig as opposed to apples 40 gig, but I found a quick review of it.
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Pros:
* Great sound quality
* Replaceable battery
* Attractive
* User can replace software with the very decent Notmad commercial or eventually gnomad2 free software programs
* Excellent price
* USB 2.0 interface
* Nice case
Cons:
* Awful, cruddy included headphones
* Odd user interface
* Poor control responsiveness under load
* Terrible, awful, atrocious included software
* Unable to be used as a USB Hard Drive of any real utility
* Doesn't charge from the USB cable
* No OGG Vorbis support
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i am not a crazy ogg supporter like some people, but it seems to me that apple still has a leg up on the UI and the ability to not use any required software to transfer songs from the device. The zen wouldn't be too bad if there were a free OS you could flash it with to change the UI, but that seems a fair ways off. The size even though not mentioned here seems fairly significant too.