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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
This is ultimately the point. If you believe it is fiction that's, of course, perfectly fine. But, that means - and especially since you "don't read fiction" - you have no claim to any knowledge whatsoever about it...
I have nothing wrong with people believing whatever they chose to believe. But to presuppose that you have an understanding of that which you admittedly don't believe in and pay little attention to, frankly, makes no sense.
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I went to a Church of England school and religious education was a compulsory subject of mine for about 10 years. I have also read quite a large amount of it while arguing with people on forums
If you can see that someone could possibly have embellished the story ever so slightly in order to add some weight of authenticity about it's holy origins, then that's cool. What I take exception to is people who will defend this book letter by letter to the death.
I believe that a lot of the history is more or less correct, as much as you can expect from people with limited resources. I believe that there are good moral teachings in it, but also dubious or outright bad ones.
I do not claim to have a 'deep understanding' of the bible that you attribute to christians, and if it meant turning me into one of these screeching evangelical nutcases I'd rather not.
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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
Incidentally, there are those who would argue that Jesus may not have actually "walked on water" as well. And, personally, I don't really care if he physically walked on water or not, beyond an academic interest. Why? Because whether he physically walked on water or not has little, if anything at all, to do with the purpose and message of his life and the bible.
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Do you not believe that his teachings would be more accepted if he could prove his status as the son of god? If he actually did walk on water, bending the universe to his will, would that not make the whole thing more credible and even end the debate about the existence of a god...
From that point of view it would be quite an important piece of human history.
There are plenty of people like yourself who will take the more... fanciful stories with a pinch of salt. Then there are people who are so unyielding in their belief that it would be funny were it not so serious. I know there are fanatics of all kinds out there, but it's the christian ones who seem to appear on the radar most frequently and appear to be the most outlandish.
With the exception, perhaps, of the Flat Earth Society.