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Willravel · 09-22-2004, 02:11 PM

adysav: Are you looking for a right or wrong answer here? Really? A little food for thought...

Jesus, who walked the earth a long time ago (let's just assume this is true, for the sake of argument), had abilities that people then could not explain. Let's just say He was ahead of them on one level (science) or another (supernatural). Now we live in an age that has developed a basic knowledge that is fundamentally evolved from what they knew at the time when Jesus walked the earth. We are able to explain things that occoured in the bible with possible explainations that occour in nature. In the book of Genesis (1:3-2:3), there was light on the first day (big bang), land seperating from water (solid planets and stars seperating from gasses and open space), let the water be gathered (formation of the earth), let there be lights in the sky (formation of an atmosphere), let the water team with living creatures (first biological entities), let there be living creatures on the land (life evolves to be landworthy), and God created man (evolved from land creatures). There are parts of that we couldn't explain away 50 years ago. Does that make them not true?

Just because something hasen't been explained away by science does not make it invalid; whether science-based or religion-based. Logical reasoning does not 'break down' because of the possibility that the answer isn't here yet. Right now a lot of what's going on in quantum physics is borderline madness. We have answers that do not match logic. Does that make them untrue?
If you are coming at Christianity from a purely scientific standpoint (unbeliever, of sorts), you have to assume that the stories of Jesus aren't true. At least that is what you seem to believe. What if Jesus was a magician? I've seen David Blane lift off the ground, using a technique called kings rising (btw, this technique does not require anything that was not available to people 2000 years ago), and fool everyone into honestly believing that he lifted off the ground. What if Jesus was such a person? What if he decided that the best way to get his opinions on life out was to make people believe that he fit the prophesies? I'll bet I could, using only things that were available 2000 years ago, seem to walk on water. All it takes is an imagination.

All this whole discussion takes is a bit of immagination.

09-22-2004, 02:11 PM	#95 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	adysav: Are you looking for a right or wrong answer here? Really? A little food for thought... Jesus, who walked the earth a long time ago (let's just assume this is true, for the sake of argument), had abilities that people then could not explain. Let's just say He was ahead of them on one level (science) or another (supernatural). Now we live in an age that has developed a basic knowledge that is fundamentally evolved from what they knew at the time when Jesus walked the earth. We are able to explain things that occoured in the bible with possible explainations that occour in nature. In the book of Genesis (1:3-2:3), there was light on the first day (big bang), land seperating from water (solid planets and stars seperating from gasses and open space), let the water be gathered (formation of the earth), let there be lights in the sky (formation of an atmosphere), let the water team with living creatures (first biological entities), let there be living creatures on the land (life evolves to be landworthy), and God created man (evolved from land creatures). There are parts of that we couldn't explain away 50 years ago. Does that make them not true? Just because something hasen't been explained away by science does not make it invalid; whether science-based or religion-based. Logical reasoning does not 'break down' because of the possibility that the answer isn't here yet. Right now a lot of what's going on in quantum physics is borderline madness. We have answers that do not match logic. Does that make them untrue? If you are coming at Christianity from a purely scientific standpoint (unbeliever, of sorts), you have to assume that the stories of Jesus aren't true. At least that is what you seem to believe. What if Jesus was a magician? I've seen David Blane lift off the ground, using a technique called kings rising (btw, this technique does not require anything that was not available to people 2000 years ago), and fool everyone into honestly believing that he lifted off the ground. What if Jesus was such a person? What if he decided that the best way to get his opinions on life out was to make people believe that he fit the prophesies? I'll bet I could, using only things that were available 2000 years ago, seem to walk on water. All it takes is an imagination. All this whole discussion takes is a bit of immagination.