View Single Post
Old 09-22-2004, 12:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
Rodney
Observant Ruminant
 
Location: Rich Wannabe Hippie Town
Quote:
Originally Posted by TM875

Culture is relative. It may seem okay for us to wear jeans and worship the pop singer on that magazine cover, but the rest of the world may not see it that way. Many find how we live our lives and how we treat other people (yes, even women in our culture) as disgusting. Whose to say who is right?
Everybody. I have the absolute right to say that beating someone who is weaker than I or less powerful, to maintain my power, is wrong. Not all systems and societies are healthy just because they exist. If you don't honestly believe that some things are absolutely wrong, then you don't really believe in anything. If wanting to protect the weak makes me an elitist in your eyes, well.... I just don't know.

For example, many of the people you're defending in the name of moral relativism would _absolutely condemn you_ for some of the things that you do. They'd think your own moral relativism was shameful.

Am I going to go overseas and force men to stop beating their wives? No. Am I going to agitate for the government to force them to stop? No. You can't impose cultural change. You _can_ incite change by being an example: the U.S., with its relatively good (not the best) record on women's rights floods the world with media that shows women who make their own decisions and have dignity to themselves, and do you think that this message starts to sink in after a while? You bet, in the places that are ready for it. And any country that wants to be part of the modern world economy as anything other than a supplier of raw materials and low-grade manufactured goods, probably is.

In _this_ country, however, if an African or Pakistani beats his wife just like in the old country, I'm calling the cops. Screw cultural sensitivity. Some things are just wrong, and I do believe that the religious writings of those other cultures would say so as well. I haven't read it, but I really doubt that the Koran has good things to say about wife beating.

Last edited by Rodney; 09-22-2004 at 12:04 PM..
Rodney is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360