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Originally Posted by irateplatypus
i get the comparison.
first off, let's not fall into idea that bin laden doesn't actively support and plan the deaths of others. the analogy falls flat on its after that.
it always seems that when i disagree on TFP it turns out to be because i just don't get it... not because i have a legitimate reason of having my own views. frustrating.
you don't have to take my word for it... i'm just some guy on the net. i'm just saying from my very well-informed perspective on this particular issue, some of the things being said are laughable.
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I didn't even suggest you "don't get it," quite playing the victim, please.
My statements were propositional.
And we have no idea the extent of bin Laden's planning, other than it is likely significantly less than what you seem to be suggesting, which is the concept of cells without clear leadership (gratis training from our very capable CIA).
..and you don't have a monopoly on insight into the frameworks from whithin which conservative christians work from. few people on this board know each other's real life history.
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Superbelt's original point was that, "The only thing that separates these men and those who think like them from Osama, Al Qaeda and the Taliban..."
and I replied to irate's point that, "comparing them to terrorists really is laughable."
Irate, not superbelt, linked Osama, Al Qaeda, and the Taliban to terrorists.
Osama is a religious figurehead who's words foment religious and political opposition against capitalists wrapped in christian clothing.
Al Qaeda is comprised of the actors who physically perpetrate violent acts against citizens and agents they believe to be responsible for political, economic, cultural, and religious oppression.
The Taliban was a right-wing religious political party that legitimately (in the world's eyes preceding the war) ruled Afghanistan.
After I unpacked the rhetoric laden terms used within the public discourse that seperates the men superbelt references (and they are, interestingly to me, all male) from the men irate references with the socially constructed box 'terrorists,' I was able to see the analogous parallels. Of course, every analogy does not perfectly mirror the original; but that should not be used as evidence to mask the abundant similarities.