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Originally Posted by irateplatypus
hmm... call me crazy, but since changing the fundamental makeup of the basic unit of all culture and society (the family) is at stake... i'd want to know the implications first.
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I don't look at gay marriage as changing culture and society, but rather more so adding to it. We have a segment of our society that are gay. This has been going on for centuries and the worlds population continues to grow. The reproduction arguement doesn't work here.
Can gays be good parents? ( through surrogate mothers, adoption) I would say probably as good as straight parents do.What would be the difference? Would people be afraid that gays will be turning out gay kids? If that is the case, then there are a hell of alot of married couples who fucked up badly by raising their kids to be gay.(humour) And I won't go the molestation route since we all know straight and gay people can do equally the same.
Are gays productive members of society and contribute to the well being of our society as a whole? Again what's the difference between gay and straight when it comes to basic fundemental morals? Damn, I knew this would come down to morality.
Speaking of such, here in lies the church. According to the church, homosexuality is immoral. Is murder, stealing, raping etc,... not immoral? Is it more immoral if a gay does it? Who decides and why? How can a gay be considered immoral especially by the church? Is the church jealous that some gays have a mind of their own and don't want to join the clergy? Maybe if there were more gays in the church, the alumnus wouldn't bugger children.
Speaking out of both sides of it's mouth, it seems to me the church doesn't understand gays in relation to everyone else or for that matter themselves. For an institution that relies on sanctity and solace as it's resolve, it sure doesn't practise what it preaches. But then again, it amazes me that so many people are drawn to religion in the first place, to be good honest moral folk Sunday morning but when it comes to something threatening such as gays, the judgemental chastisement of something they don't, and don't want to understand rears its ugly head, because someone tells then to think that. Why else would they be like that?
I don't know if it is hypocracy, sheer ignorance or just insular prejudices that drive people to decide what is right or wrong? I would think that being a complete individual and respecting and excepting all people equal would put one on the fast track to heaven when our number comes up. But why would it? If the bible teaches God's word as gospel, that being indifference towards some people, I guess to get into God's good books, one has to practise the same. Maybe God should have taken more that 7 days to create the world because it is one fucked up place, and always has been. Thank God? What the fuck for. Good thing too that there is a cross on top of churches rather than a San Diego sized Chickle Little up there or else people would be falling on their faces everywhere. The sky is falling, the sky,....
And finally government. Not much to say here just that as everything changes and the old guards die off, there is a time and place for everything. Gay marriage will have to wait a little longer. And it's too bad because the longer it takes the more those so intolerant will continue to aspire to the basic lowest common denominators in society while thinking they are actual better than some one else. Doesn't that happen when people decide someone elses business when it isn't theirs to begin with? Good thing gays don't bring up the 50% divorce rate. Maybe someone should decide what heterosexuals can or can't be married, have kids etc,..Jumpin' Lord Jesus, nobody has the right to do that now. How dare anyone even make such an imflammatory suggestion.