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DEI37 · 09-16-2004, 06:43 PM

The more I see the TL, the more I can like it. I do love the interior. Not a big fan of the exterior styling. The compared pics with the Bonneville leave the TL outclassed, in MY opinion.

I'm curious Halx, how did you get the CTS being $8000 more than the TL? I FULLY equipped both cars (minus automatic transmissions), and got them within $2500. I'd personally take the CTS, simply because it is rear drive, and that interior is 99% of the TL's, in my opinion.

One big thing that I'll get on, simply because I can. Talk about squeaks and rattles. I drive a 1997 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme with just under 140,000 miles. It's been totalled twice. I have one door rattle over bigger bumps, and one center dash noise, again over moderate or greater bumps. Fit and finish is lacking compared to some, but it bests a 2004 Nissan Titan and gaps on the interior are better than a 2003+ Altima. Overall reliability, namely in the electrical department is stellar, although, I do have one door lock that is somewhat possessed, and won't tell the BCM to shut off the interior lights and lock the doors. Happens twice in three months, as a general guideline. Where I MUST diss the car, is in its drivetrain. Not so much the transmission...it's strong, and is hard to goof. The engine is anemic. Not much power, lots of noise, and less then ideal reliability, thanks in no small part to the lower intake manifold gasket GM FINALLY fessed up to. The drivers' seat cushion/foam HAS broken down, but with eight years of life, and five of those being sat in by a 250+ guy...that's gonna happen. The seat cover is also worn.

ANyways, that's my thoughts, and my thoughts on my daily ride. The engine characteristics should change soon enough, but for now, that is most definitely the cars' downfall.

09-16-2004, 06:43 PM	#33 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	The more I see the TL, the more I can like it. I do love the interior. Not a big fan of the exterior styling. The compared pics with the Bonneville leave the TL outclassed, in MY opinion. I'm curious Halx, how did you get the CTS being $8000 more than the TL? I FULLY equipped both cars (minus automatic transmissions), and got them within $2500. I'd personally take the CTS, simply because it is rear drive, and that interior is 99% of the TL's, in my opinion. One big thing that I'll get on, simply because I can. Talk about squeaks and rattles. I drive a 1997 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme with just under 140,000 miles. It's been totalled twice. I have one door rattle over bigger bumps, and one center dash noise, again over moderate or greater bumps. Fit and finish is lacking compared to some, but it bests a 2004 Nissan Titan and gaps on the interior are better than a 2003+ Altima. Overall reliability, namely in the electrical department is stellar, although, I do have one door lock that is somewhat possessed, and won't tell the BCM to shut off the interior lights and lock the doors. Happens twice in three months, as a general guideline. Where I MUST diss the car, is in its drivetrain. Not so much the transmission...it's strong, and is hard to goof. The engine is anemic. Not much power, lots of noise, and less then ideal reliability, thanks in no small part to the lower intake manifold gasket GM FINALLY fessed up to. The drivers' seat cushion/foam HAS broken down, but with eight years of life, and five of those being sat in by a 250+ guy...that's gonna happen. The seat cover is also worn. ANyways, that's my thoughts, and my thoughts on my daily ride. The engine characteristics should change soon enough, but for now, that is most definitely the cars' downfall. __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.