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Originally Posted by powerclown
I completely disagree that its the Palestinean's land. This area of the world has been contested, invaded, conquered and immigrated to and from for 1000s of years. The jews have been linked to the land since the time of the writing of the old testament (religiously) and since the time of historically recorded jewish communities in the area that is today Israel, which goes back at least 4,000 years. I just don't buy the argument that the Israelis came out of nowhere to displace the Palestinians as if they were hostile invaders from Mars; its historically and intellectually dishonest. What the whole middle east is so pissed off about is that after all this time, Israel was formally recognized as a viable, successful and productive democracy.
Bookman-
The lineage between yesterday and today is one of religion, namely Judaism. It is the common link amongst peoples from places all over the world, and to which they see Israel as their religious homeland.
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And for those that dont consider the Bible an accurate source of historical documentation? If one doesnt believe that man dame from a pile of dust and woman from one of his ribs they have less credence? How about the hundreds of thousands of Jewish people that interpret that there is no state of Israel until the Mesiah comes? Its no wonder the story of Post Canaan starts with "God" stating the Hebrews will rule all nations and Arabs resemble the "wild ass" of man. A "story" such as that would seem to give alot of leeway wouldnt it. Whether one is reading the Torah, the Talmud, or the Odessy by Homer it doesnt change the facts.
http://domino.un.org/unispal.nsf/cf0...2561150071fdb0!OpenDocument
http://domino.un.org/unispal.nsf/cf0...256ddb007bb36f!OpenDocument
Just a couple of sources of hard data. The reason I would provide a UN source is because may still give it credability being it was the UN that recognized Israelis statehood. Most Zionists Ive debated with finds records and historical document created and kept by Zionists will be more accurate.
My answer to that is go to UN address made by the founding Zionists to the entire assembly. You may find them insightful.
You may also research into how the Old Testament came about; then again the right to the land of Canaan starts to disolve as one digs a little deeper. The Jews didnt just come out of nowhere try looking into Asir.
You are right about Jews living in Palestine for hundreds of years; they did so as a minority in peace with Arabs. It wasnt until Zionism ariived that the trouble began.