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Originally Posted by Dragonlich
Your history stops quite a long time ago. Things have changed since then, as you probably know. Since Israel was founded and recognized by the UN as a nation, they have been under constant attack. Your facts about their history don't change that a bit.
I suggest you look at the Arabs and their history for a change - it doesn't take much research to find out about their intentions, and their previous actions - I can't understand how you could interpret *that* as anything other than it is.
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What aspect do you want to examine? The 1922 census shows what the picture was. The immigration caps set by the British were agreed to by both the incoming Jews and the ARABS. Many arabs even sold land to the newly arrived immigrants. There wasnt a problem until the Zionists began acting on their Manifest Destiny vision. I dont consider myself an expert, so Im open to any area you feel I should look at. What aspect of Arabic history are you referring?
I actually would rather not go back that far in history; mainly because since Canaan, the land has changed hands so many times- ancient history really shows it doesnt hold bonds to anyone. The other reason much of the history is of for debate because the Bible is being used as a source for histrical documentation. Like I state many times; history is up for individual interpretation. So anything I state is how- I've interpretated from my own research and experience. I will state that interpretation is free of any bias. If you knew me on a personal level you might wonder why I have the views I do. Certainly many of my peers wonder why I "stick up" for the Palestinians; 10 years I certainly did not. Its because I strive for the truth in situations, and I believe I've found it.
The reason I would even bring up history that far back; is if someone is going to mention that area as "belonging" to the Israelis; I'm going to assume they are referring to their religious call to it. IMO ithat doesnt hold weight- there are thousands of Jewish people that feel the very same.
I'm glad you mentioned the UN; its a point Ive brought up often. By stating that point is means it holds some weight with you. The issue here; is the very same entity that granted Israel its statehood also granted the Palestinians the areas known as the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
IMO its not that partitioning of land that sparked the wars (the ongoing war) its the Zionists (not Jewish) refusal to recognize the West Bank and Gaza strip doesnt belong to them. It may be worth while to investigate this period of time. Its not hard to discover "terrorism" has been going on long before the last few decades, and didnt start with the Palestinians.
I understand my facts dont change the fact Israel has been under constant attack- Ive never promoted that stance. Its sometimes difficult for me to understand how some miss the "whys".
In agreeance by what you state referencing the UN; I think Israel has every right to exsist in peace and security; but so does the indigenous population. The settlements need to come out of the West Bank and Gaza strip completely.