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Dragonlich · 09-16-2004, 07:45 AM

Bookman, I'll try to answer some of them.

#1: I see no reason to answer this question, because I believe both sides are allowed to stay in the land.

#2: only if you explain how *all* of the current "Palestinians" are linked to the people living there 2000 years ago. Not to mention the fact that it really doesn't matter. Or would you suggest that "Americans" shouldn't be allowed to live in the USA because they weren't there 2000 years ago? Arabs weren't living in Africa 2000 years ago, yet they're there now, slaughtering innocent civilians in Sudan - should *they* be forced to return to the original Arabia?

#3: according to the 1922 census Sun Tzu mention, there were some 550,000 Palestinians living in the area. Most of the people currently living there, or living in refugee camps all over the M.E. are people who came to Israel to work there *after* it was made a state. Arafat himself is an Egyptian. So no, most weren't there at the turn of the century. That doesn't mean they aren't entitled to live there, though. They're welcome to stay if they were to acknowledge that the Jews are entitled to live there too. And to ask you a question in return: where are the Israeli Jews to go?

#4: suicide bombings are more terrible than the tactics used by Israel because they deliberately target civilians, and try to kill as many as possible. The intent is evil. I don't care how desperate people are; nobody should be allowed to do that. If you try to understand why they'd do things like that, you are in a way saying that sort of makes it okay. I'll say it again: nothing justifies *deliberately* killing as many civilians as possible, NOTHING.

#5: see nr. 3 - They're entitled to stay if they can live in peace with their neighbors. If they can't, they're fully responsible for what happens to them. Repeat of question about the Jews - where do they go?

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Dragonlich 42, baby! Location: The Netherlands	Bookman, I'll try to answer some of them. #1: I see no reason to answer this question, because I believe both sides are allowed to stay in the land. #2: only if you explain how all of the current "Palestinians" are linked to the people living there 2000 years ago. Not to mention the fact that it really doesn't matter. Or would you suggest that "Americans" shouldn't be allowed to live in the USA because they weren't there 2000 years ago? Arabs weren't living in Africa 2000 years ago, yet they're there now, slaughtering innocent civilians in Sudan - should they be forced to return to the original Arabia? #3: according to the 1922 census Sun Tzu mention, there were some 550,000 Palestinians living in the area. Most of the people currently living there, or living in refugee camps all over the M.E. are people who came to Israel to work there after it was made a state. Arafat himself is an Egyptian. So no, most weren't there at the turn of the century. That doesn't mean they aren't entitled to live there, though. They're welcome to stay if they were to acknowledge that the Jews are entitled to live there too. And to ask you a question in return: where are the Israeli Jews to go? #4: suicide bombings are more terrible than the tactics used by Israel because they deliberately target civilians, and try to kill as many as possible. The intent is evil. I don't care how desperate people are; nobody should be allowed to do that. If you try to understand why they'd do things like that, you are in a way saying that sort of makes it okay. I'll say it again: nothing justifies deliberately killing as many civilians as possible, NOTHING. #5: see nr. 3 - They're entitled to stay if they can live in peace with their neighbors. If they can't, they're fully responsible for what happens to them. Repeat of question about the Jews - where do they go?