lol
we'll never find a way to discuss this as we're approaching this from very different angles. let the rest of TFP judge this one.  this world gets nuttier everytime my alarm clock goes off in the morning. if anyone is still reading this thread, i'll see you on another one.
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If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.
~ Winston Churchill
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