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Old 09-15-2004, 04:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
Ustwo
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Originally Posted by smooth
Damnit, Mr. Mephisto, now I have to respond, too.

One of Ustwo's major complaints against guaranteed health care was that the government would not allow lawsuits--that people should be able to sue errant doctors. He claims that since the government would prevent such lawsuits unless it was willing to "feed" the doctors, such a program would be untenable.

He uses this as a reason to support tort reform--reform that will limit lawsuits against doctors.

Can someone please explain how this is logically consistent?


One of Ustwo's second criticisms is based on the notion that the public ought not to have its care 'managed' by a centralized bureaucracy. He argues that the government would determine what kinds of treatments patients can have and the amount it will pay for those treatments.

He offers this as a critique of guaranteed health care. However, is anyone willing to dispute that insurance companies do not behave exactly as he described the government would operate? If so, please post it here for me to read and meditate on.
I knew this debate would be to advanced for TFP. You answer none of the problems in socialized medicine, and play word games. Yes we need to limit some of the insane pay outs in medical lawsuits, and more importantly we need protections for innocent doctors in areas where lawsuits are viewed more as a lottery. If you don't see a value in that then you really have nothing to add.

I can see the problem with today’s legal system (unfair to doctors and insurance companies causing doctors to leave or quit, leaving people without needed care) and I can see the problem with a future all government system (incompetent doctors who are not accountable). Neither of these points are hard to see.

I also STATED that insurance was a problem, and the problem is there is no market forces involved. What does it matter to a patient if once hospital charges 1000 and one charges 10000 for the same procedure if insurance pays for it all? This is why I'm all for health care savings accounts.
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