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Old 09-15-2004, 12:23 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct
That may be true of a few, but the majority are honest people who would not intentionally kill civilians in cold blood. If what you are saying was true, than Iraq's major cities would not be standing. I don't appreciate this sort of unprovoked attack on my friends who are serving honorably in the armed forces.
Unfortunately, I must be exposed to all the wrong information. I have never seen nor heard anything positive about the US military occupying Iraq. Everything I hear and see is ALWAYS negative. Maybe I am not searching in the right place. Maybe your "honorable friends" care deeply for those poor Iraqis and would die for their innocent souls. Please direct me to some positive sources so maybe I can change my view. And by positive, I dont mean anti-Iraqi bullshit.


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over and over on this and other boards i see the same kind of argument deployed: my firends are good people, they are in iraq therefore anything you say about atrocities (from the american side, in this case, in particular--but they have no monopoly) is a priori offensive as a way of trying to short circuit political argument about the nature of the war in iraq.
if that is what is going on, then i would caution the folk who go this way to think about why they make this kind of argument.
there is a real danger that they are instrumentalizing the associations with their friends/relatives, and by doing that are not developing the arguments they imagine they are, but are instead trying to shut down debate.
Exactly......If I state that the Iraqi militants are my friends and that their beheadings are justified, I would be flamed to no end. There is a double standard when this issue is involved.

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You're right... that's why we would bomb the military buildings only at night (least amount of collateral), and many times informed them ahead of time so the janitors could get out of the building. Sound firing on anything and everything to you?
Wow, they actually wait till the janitors leave??? Do they send them roses as well......that is so incredibly sweet. I never heard of such a thing, are you in the military? And if not, where did you get your info. When I see military footage, it seems that they go about their campaigns in the day time quite a bit, and I never see them warn the poor children they are about to blow to oblivion. Once again, maybe I'm looking in all the wrong places.

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I love how some will claim they support our soldiers yet the second the soldiers defend themselves their reputations are impugned and their motives, professionalism, and respect for life are trampled upon by those sitting thousands of miles away staring at a computer or tv screen. Not unlike those soldiers who returned fire on a mosque containing insurgents trying to kill them.

I wish I could say I'm surprised but, alas, I am not.
If you are referring to me in this post. I just want to let you know I never was for the US soldiers. I have always felt the same way toward them and I always will.

I am not trying to offend anyone, but whenever some people have friends in Iraq, they will take it offensively and it pretty much kills any debate, as roachboy has stated. It is probably not to wise of me to argue when mods have friends in Iraq, but I see that as not a fair reason to get upset over my comments.

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