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dragon:
i not sure why you would imagine that having been the victims of racism/religious persecution would result in only one kind of lesson--but maybe you are sure of it, and there we are.
it is not a good position to argue from, however. because you in a backhanded way legitimate the racist discourse of the israeli right (even as you express horror at its double coming from the other side, when it does) and evacuate the problem of racism as such. i dont see the point of that move.
btw, i have no problem with your position, what you claim is **the lesson** of the holocuast, but i see it as partial.
depends what you feel is important.
i would rather focus on explanations/"lessons" that would prevent anything like that from happening again, to any group.
if that is not a concern for you, then so be it.
as for my position regarding the treatment of the palestinians by the idf (this primiarly directed at powerclown) nothing in what you say speaks to the argument i am making, i dont think. i was trying to talk about conditions of possibility, causes, and you talk about effects, and that in a one-sided manner. it is not like i am unaware that it is a crappy situation to be in, being confronted with the possibility of being blown up by a suicide bomber--but you seem unwilling to link that kind of act to a context.
maybe here is a real problem created by the current discourse on "terrorism".
or maybe we are just talking past each other.
anway, i do not see the point of repeating the arguments i have made.
so i'll take a breather and see if the ground changes to open up possibilities for further discussion.
interesting conversation, however. thanks.
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spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear
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