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Old 09-14-2004, 09:22 PM   #111 (permalink)
Rekna
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Ummm Renka no one is disputing the documents were faked.
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Originally Posted by sprocket
You keep bringing up these documents... even after a reference to a reputable source has been posted that refutes your claims about them. What facts are you using to make the claims about these documents? Lets see them so we can move beyond this already.
Looks like he was questioning that they were a forgery to me.


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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Also it is apparent all you did was google for the stories and not read them as the two I looked at for fun both explained what happened quiet clearly.
No I did read them, I was pointing out the fact that they were considered forgeries which those articles all said.

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Its not as if the president, after they were found to be fake, pretended they were true, nor did he base his claim directly on said documents.
These documents have not been proven false yet. So CBS should still be able to stand by their story, in fact they have an obligation to. Because if they are true and they give up trying to prove their truth then we have let a travesty happen.

There are two types of errors in stats accepting something that is false and not accepting something that is true. The later is much worse than the first. The same is true for our facts. So let's let the discussion about the validity of the documents continue until there is concrete proof one way or the other.

If you haven't read it lately check out CBS's case they update it daily.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in641481.shtml

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
The US intelligence agencies only got the documents AFTER the State of the Union speech. About the only similarity between the two is that faked documents were involved. After that they are widely divergent, while CBS goes into CYA mode the Bush admin admitted there was a problem with the documents.
First the documents went through the CIA before the white house. Second before the address Bush was told not to include the niger documents because there was suspicion of forgery.
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