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Old 09-14-2004, 03:04 PM   #64 (permalink)
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powerclown---please. that is complete nonsense.
what kind of "olive branch" are you talking about?
the expansion of the settlements?
the daily oppression?
the attempts to economically drive the palestinians off the land?
or do you mean the formal gestures made without any relation to what has been happening on the ground--yes that must be what you are referring to. here, we want peace---but while you think about it we will put some more settlements in place--great deal, eh?

i think the idea that it is israelis who live under constant pressure as a result of the conflicts is absurd--they are not the ones under military occupation, they are not the ones whose houses are being bulldozed--i agree that it is tragic that the situation is such that people would consider suicide bombing, but there is no comparison between that and the state-sponsored brutality visited upon the palestinians of the west bank in particular by the idf. the present policies of the israeli right is creating the situation--the bombing etc. are a reaction to it.
and on top of all this, you have the settlers themselves.

get off the israel as victim trip--it might have made sense through 1967 (i might even have agreed with you, had something like this conversation happened before that time) but now it is just crap, pure and simple.

israel is not the martyr here. just look at what is happening in reality.

your characterization of "the arabs" has more to do with your interior world than anything happening out there. i dont know what motivates it--certainly not any recent close look at what is happening.
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