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Old 09-14-2004, 09:42 AM   #66 (permalink)
asaris
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Cooperricko-- your post is so full of falsity I just have to pick it apart.

The Aborigines believed in similar facts in 30,000 BCE? How interesting. Not that you mention what these 'facts' are, or how this is relevant to the thread in any way whatsoever. And I hate to dash your hopes, but 30,000 years before Caesar is pretty much 30,000 years before Christ.

You are aware, aren't you, that history doesn't proceed by either logic or universal laws? Unless you're a Hegelian or a Marxist, the only way to know what happened in history is to look at historical documents. Logic and universal laws don't really have much to do with it. And pure fact is generally pretty hard to find.

So you claim that Jesus was a fictional character? Gee, you'd think someone would have noticed. Nevermind the fact that there's more historical evidence for his existence than for just about any other historical person of that time period; four biographies written during the lifetime of his contemporaries is about as good evidence as you're going to get.

While we're on this, the council of Nicea, which is, I assume, what you're trying to mindlessly bash, was towards the beginning of the 4th century CE, not the end.

What do you mean by proof of death? You don't think the Roman soldiers executing him for treason would have made good and sure he was dead? Or do you think that after being tortured for most of a day, and laying without food and water, not to mention without medical attention, for about a day and a half, wouldn't have killed just about anyone? And exactly why do you think the disciples would have provided evidence of his death? Once he's dead there's no point -- no one thought he was going to rise again. And, of course, once he's risen it's going to be hard to find evidence of his death.

Up until th 1400s, they thought the world was round. People have known that the world was round for a very, very long time; at least back to the Greeks. It's pretty obvious when you look at a ship going over the horizon. Sure, Joe on the street might have thought the world was flat; but then again, so would you if you hadn't been taught otherwise.
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