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Old 09-13-2004, 02:24 PM   #60 (permalink)
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First of all, I do not "bow blindly" to our Commander-in-Chief. I follow orders that are laid out above me in the chain of command, as do hundred of thousands of other soldiers in our fine United States military. And though I may have to take a life without hesitation (and only to save my own, or my battle buddies), why would you think it would be without remorse? Do you know any war vets? Have you ever talked to them about the war? Remorse is often felt very strongly by those who encountered fire fights and know that a soldier, friendly OR enemy, died because of it.
You do blindly bow to your leader for the very fact that you take orders (lies) and go to war under false pretenses. Had you known Iraq was not a threat to us, you would probably have not gone. (Your govt. is masters at brainwashing, so chances are you do think Iraq is part of the "axis of evil") I say you don’t have remorse because you go out there and would do it again without second thought. I personally do not know a lot of soldiers except one, and his view is for the most part violent. He talks about how he enjoys killing people....that is beside the point though. I don’t base my opinion on a couple of soldiers I meet, I base it on what I know is right and wrong.

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I do not put my life at risk for any individual. I put my life at risk for ALL individuals in this country and as far as I can tell, even by the sentiment of this thread, the great many of them do care. Just because you are callous against soldiers does not mean that everyone is. And just because I fight does not mean I do it for the President.
First off, it does not matter to me what the majority thinks. Secondly, you state you put your life at stake for ALL individuals in this country, so I will have to repeat myself. Iraq was not a threat to me or anyone in this country; therefore you put your life on the line for Bush's personal agenda. I don’t want to be represented by any soldiers, none of them fight for my life, and my life is in my creator’s hands, not yours or your comrades.

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As for your soul suffering eternally (and also not being religious), being spiritual is religious. Religion doesn't have to take the form of some half-baked (or fully-baked) organized church. If you have a soul, and you worry about it, you're religious, whether you believe in god, the ethereal realm, or any other type of afterlife. I'm not "religious", by your sense of the definition either, but I believe that what I do in good conscience will not harm my soul in the afterlife. I believe that nazi soldiers are just as likely to be in heaven as any other human being, save those who tortured and killed prisoners in death camps by cruel and unusual means. *shrug* There's a line... a pretty broad, ugly, big one.

Overall, it's obvious we won't ever agree on this topic. It seems the two of us are about as polar as opposites can get. However, I respect your right to have your opinion, and I'm saddened slightly that any would think of me or others like me as murderers. C'est la vie!
Yes, we will never agree on this as are morals are extremely different. I apologize, you are right about religion being spiritual. I do not believe in organized religion, but I do believe in a higher power. Be it God or aliens, I'm just talking about my creator. I do believe in an afterlife too, so I guess it’s a different idea of religion. I'll say this though, if you believe Nazi soldiers are in "heaven”; that gives you an excuse to kill as many innocent people as you please without worrying about the consequences in the next life. You are lying to yourself so you could have a good conscience.

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