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Originally Posted by DelayedReaction
Not to mention have a FFL, which requires an act of God to get, and pay $500 per year per weapon.
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This is incorrect. A person does not need an FFL to own a fully automatic weapon. The $500 per year per weapon is also incorrect. The FFL (Federal Fireamrs License) is only needed by the person selling the weapon (this goes for any type of firearm). The $500 per year fee is not per weapon and is only payable by person/store/company selling the Class 3 (full auto) device. This is a Special Occupational Tax levied on them by the Department of the Treasury.
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Originally posted by Smooth
Would you mind posting a picture of the top rifle folded up?
For the best dramatic punch and most realistic use value, I would like to see it in shooter A's hands folded up walking into a store versus shooter B holding a long rifle up to his shoulder or hip.
I'd like to see a comparison between both guns laying on the back seat of a '65 Impala, and I'd like to see them under a coat on that back seat.
I'd be very curious if you can find a picture of either one hanging out the back of a Ford Mark IV and which one would be easiest to handle in that situation. Let's assume for the sake of the scenario that I don't care about accuracy, just straigh spray and pray with a few 50 round clips laying next to me. If you saw me hanging out the side of one of those cars or walking into a shop:
Which one would you think I'd be holding and which one would you rather be up against?
Which one do you think the police want to deal with?
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I will conceed that a folded teloscoping stock makes the overall length of a firearm shorter than a non-teloscoping stock, however, in most crimes it's handguns that are used not rifle or "assault weapons". In 1995, the Clinton Administration conducted a study which found that less than 1 percent of state and federal inmates carried "military style" weapons which is a greater set of weapons than the AWB deals with. In 1997 another survey was done of prisoners and it found that during the offense that brought them to prison, 15% of State inmates and 13% of Federal inmates carried a handgun, and about 2%, a military-style semiautomatic gun. (sources:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,103454,00.html and
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/fuo.htm)
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Now, I may agree with some of your points in regard to the notion of an armed populace, but don't give me bullshit about the whole thing a farce based on looks and not function.
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I couldn't disagree with you more on this point. It was based upon looks. Keep in mind, the AWB only dealt with semi-automatic firearms. If the ban would have been based on function, then no semi-automatic rifles would have been produced in the last 10 years period. They all would have been on the assault weapons ban because the all function the same way....squeeze the trigger - BANG.....squeeze the trigger - BANG.