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Originally Posted by powerclown
Jews have been there for over 2000 years, and their ancestors' origins in the area can be traced back 2000 more years. Due to their relatively small numbers, they were constantly invaded, occupied, enslaved or displaced, first by the romans, seljuk turks, christians (crusades), egyptians (who, ironically, were tolerant of their presence), then ottoman turks. What the brits did after ww2 was send the jews back to where they had been for the past 4000 years. The modern arab cry of "occupation!" is a phobic, premeditated political response to the fact that after centuries, their historical presence in the region was formally acknowleded.
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Acknowledged by whom? Israelis?
I’ll assume you base this on religous philosophies from the Old Testament. You seem to be dismissing who was historically documented being there first in the land of Canaan. Placing the Bible as historical fact is also riddled with problems.
Here’s my historical interpretation: The Bible has not always existed in the form in which we know it today The various books which comprise the Bible were first bound together as pages in a single book in the fourth and fifth centuries BC. Prior to this, the sacred texts of both Judaism and Christianity consisted of a library of separate texts, each written on a scroll. These scrolls made up a collection or library of sacred texts, but different congregations have different collections of scrolls that are considered sacred. It was not until the year 90 BC in a council held at Jamnia ( Palestine) that the Jewish community achieved agreement on which works were to be considered to be canon, scriptures that are binding in matters of doctrine and practice. It was even later, in the second century AD that Christian scholars decided that only writings by Apostles would be accepted as Christian scripture, an idea that excluded the writings of other early church leaders such as First Clement which was written in the early second century by the bishop of Rome to the church at Corinth.
The formulation of the list of sacred works was not a straightforward one or without controversy for either the Jews or the Christians, although the Torah, the first five books of the Bible, was universally accepted as sacred text by Jews.
The Book of Ezekiel was problematic for the Jews because its description of the Temple differs from that found in the Torah, and it was not until an agreement was achieved that Ezekiel could be reconciled with the Torah that it was accepted.
The Book of Ecclesiastes was questioned by some because they felt that its pessimistic outlook was at variance with Judaism.
The Book of Esther was debated for well over a century after Jamnia, because the word God did not appear in it and because it introduced the feast of Purim, a feast that was not set forth in the Torah. There was general agreement that inspired scripture had ceased to be written at the time of Ezra, so (with the exception of Jonah and Daniel, which were written somewhat later) works written after about 400 BC and the council at Jamnia were not accepted as inspired.
With that being said most of the above problems for the Jews, the different Temple described by Ezekiel and other historical places and other problems, were based on the that the real homeland of the was not Canaan (Palestine), but Asir, a province of Saudi Arabia situated at the coastline of the Red Sea and the mountains land inwards south of Mecca to the north of Yemen.
You can prove it to yourself by reading the Apocrypha book of Judith and Esther. The cities and other facts are clearly located in Asir.
The Church-fathers new that already in 200 AD but it was already to late to correct their first belief that the history of Israel took place in Palestine (Canaan) and they declared these books not canonical. This was done with full agreement of the Jewish religion leaders at that time.