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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
The Israeli question cannot be understood without reference to the holocaust, and the particular effect on the Jewish people of the overall lack of co-ordinated resistance to Nazi atrocities.
Any any sane person could only encourage Jewish and Muslim people to understand the closeness of their religions.. and to understand that what differentiates them is meaningless compared to what unites them.
The ordinary people only want peace... it is the zealots and the madman who blow up school buses to incite rage and war.... this element must be removed, socially, from society.
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The holocaust was undoubtedly a horrible part of human history. I’m not exactly sure what your stating here though. If your referencing the fact there was a mass migration of European Jews to (I’ll just call it the Holy Land for now) following the that terrible event; I understand a part of what your saying. But in saying the Israeli question can not be answered without referencing the Holocaust; doesn’t make complete sense to me. As I understand there are many Jewish people that see Israel as being illegitimate; that the true kingdom of Israel will not ”be” until the coming of their Messiah; while others believe that it is their right by the word of God; that every inch of the area belongs to them.
In either case religion is being used to shape global policy. The problem with that is; what if one doesn’t subscribe to the other religious beliefs? In referencing what you stated about what divides them: I disagree. There are things that would make them seem so alike- there were many times I would mistake a Palestinian for an Israeli and vice versa; aspects of the language sound similar, the same for other elements. However the foundation of what seems to be the very reference for being right on one side and the last crutch for the other- religion; states their origins are of the same father; but then casts the Arabs down on every level. For me it’s a story; kind of like Homer’s Odyssey. In fact; I interpret the view many aspects of the Torah are actually borrowed from the Sumerians. While its not the first time; this “story” now wields the power of Pandora’s Box whether or not you agree or disagree; believe in it or not. The irony the many don’t realize is that there are also a large number of Palestinians that are Christians.
I’ve heard the view that because of the atrocities inflicted upon them; the Jews deserve a land to call their own. Taking nothing away from the suffering inflicted upon the people that were murdered; there were also 5,000,000 people that were murdered who weren’t Jewish. Take make a very long point very short; outside of the agreed immigration caps set forth by the British and reluctant indigenous population; other than pure conquest (whether blessed by singular religion not) there is no just reason for what occurred.
I don’t want to put words in your mouth; can you further explain what your point is; thanks.