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Originally Posted by Zdragva
I can understand totally that without us there would be no good or bad, but i cant bleieve that to be true.
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That is a contradiction. It is one or the other. And I am going to assume you believe ethics/morals exist without humans there to create them. Your a moral/ethical objectivist.
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Originally Posted by Zdragva
how can u explain that if i was brought up in a convant and the first day i left i saw someone getting brutaly beating would i not think that evil even if all i knew was eating sleeping and praying?
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I don't have to explain it because logically it would not happen. If you were raised in such an environment where killing and torture was socially acceptable then you would not think it was evil.
The Aztecs are notorious for their live sacrifices and torture of humans. That is only one example of the many cultures throughout human history where human death was an integral part of life. Our view today on any human death being evil is very recent in respect to the length of our existence.
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Originally Posted by Zdragva
what i mean is that to me at least there are some things which seem to go deeper than simply being told or deciding its good or bad, we 'feel' within oursleves that its bad even if we do not understand or know that it is.
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But you have never felt these feelings, no one has... ever. There is no base for such an assumption. We are products of our environment.
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Originally Posted by Zdragva
i might chave completly misunderstood existentialism, and i dont believe in predestiny or anything like that, but i do believe that we can tell base evil and good, not just be conditioned to think it so.
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What you talked about in your post was one of the consequences of existentialism. And your right you don't fully understand it, though no one epects you to, hence why you are here learning.