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pan6467 · 09-11-2004, 06:24 PM

True, it is a subjective truth.

I disagree, again look at Clinton and how he handled himself. In '92 Whitewater came out and "he cheated on his wife" and the GOP slammed him with everything they could. Clinton would then answer the accusations, not cry foul or go running and asking the election committee to have them stop airing the ads, and move on. He was a fucking train man, he didn't let the adversity stop him. When he was being impeached did he cry to the people and ask for help? Did he show signs of cracking or breaking? NO and I submit that is the reason he wasn't impeached. Because he didn't show weakness, he didn't give into the pressure. He stood his ground and said push me off but I'm not backing down. And people respected that. I believe in 20 years Clinton will be looked upon as a strong president and great man.

Kerry on the other hand is letting it get to him and showing weakness. If you cannot see that his reactions are fueling more smear ads (because he reacted negatively to it, then the GOP could throw more of it, because he was giving it credibility) then yes, what I assume is truth would not affect you. I believe it is truth (perhaps subjectively) because I do not believe a man reacting negatively to negative ads and showing weakness will win any election.

What Kerry needs to do before it is too late is get off the Vietnam issue totally, pound the issues. Give an answer if necessary to a smear but move on and don't show that it is getting to him.

It's like the bully on the schoolyard, you show weakness he's gonna keep pummeling you there, yes eventually you may toughen up but for Kerry if he wants to win he better toughen up fast.

I'm not being or wanting anyone in this thread to be partisan. I'm a DEM, and damn proud to be, but I am not blind to the overbearing weakness Kerry is showing me and I have a feeling many many others who want to vote for him, but see the weakness and have doubts. If he shows weakness now what is he going to be like in office when he wants to get a bill through and the GOP don't want to work with him?

09-11-2004, 06:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	True, it is a subjective truth. I disagree, again look at Clinton and how he handled himself. In '92 Whitewater came out and "he cheated on his wife" and the GOP slammed him with everything they could. Clinton would then answer the accusations, not cry foul or go running and asking the election committee to have them stop airing the ads, and move on. He was a fucking train man, he didn't let the adversity stop him. When he was being impeached did he cry to the people and ask for help? Did he show signs of cracking or breaking? NO and I submit that is the reason he wasn't impeached. Because he didn't show weakness, he didn't give into the pressure. He stood his ground and said push me off but I'm not backing down. And people respected that. I believe in 20 years Clinton will be looked upon as a strong president and great man. Kerry on the other hand is letting it get to him and showing weakness. If you cannot see that his reactions are fueling more smear ads (because he reacted negatively to it, then the GOP could throw more of it, because he was giving it credibility) then yes, what I assume is truth would not affect you. I believe it is truth (perhaps subjectively) because I do not believe a man reacting negatively to negative ads and showing weakness will win any election. What Kerry needs to do before it is too late is get off the Vietnam issue totally, pound the issues. Give an answer if necessary to a smear but move on and don't show that it is getting to him. It's like the bully on the schoolyard, you show weakness he's gonna keep pummeling you there, yes eventually you may toughen up but for Kerry if he wants to win he better toughen up fast. I'm not being or wanting anyone in this thread to be partisan. I'm a DEM, and damn proud to be, but I am not blind to the overbearing weakness Kerry is showing me and I have a feeling many many others who want to vote for him, but see the weakness and have doubts. If he shows weakness now what is he going to be like in office when he wants to get a bill through and the GOP don't want to work with him? __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?" Last edited by pan6467; 09-11-2004 at 06:32 PM..