This may sound harsh but I’m not sure if you are really ready for a real discussion. I don’t mean this in a mean way but I think right now you are to busy letting other people think for you. I found your response to Superbelt’s obviously crackpot thread to be disheartening. I think you are to willing to accept what others say and not using your own mind to figure out if what they are saying makes sense. Basically you are susceptible to well packaged propaganda. This is the kind of thing you need to work out and not trust ANY source, just work out in your brain which seems to have any sort of logic to it.
Also while I’ve done long threads in the past where I site sources, look at page after page of information, and waste a lot of Googles bandwidth I am not going to do that here. I’ve done it enough and quite frankly I don’t have a lot of time for it. I will give you the information I have garnered over the last couple of years in everything from articles to interviews but if you ask me for a source I won’t have it. My brain doesn’t work that way, to me only the information is important, and from personal experience as a scientist, if you find someone who likes to quote sources while he talks about a subject, odds are he doesn’t know anything of his own on said subject. If I were doing my thesis again fine, but not for TFP. Also when I do such threads the subject tends to die and no one responds for some reason.
Now for your question.
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Before the War in Iraq, We as the American People were told the justification for said war was to remove the threat of attack on our soil by Saddam and Iraq.
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This is not entirely true. The justification for said war was Saddams refusal to comply with the UN resolution, 1441 or whatever it was. I don’t think Saddam playing games with the UN inspectors needs to be looked at much further. Part of the problem is that EVERYONE had something to say about Saddam’s WMD’s, and there were reports of this and that system and how it could reach the US, or Israel, and what happened to all the Scuds etc etc etc that what was official and unofficial got blurred. Please note that the issue was never IF he had WMD’s but what would happen if they fell into the wrong hands. The fact that Saddam has WMD’s was not disputed. There were still WMD’s missing from what was known in the first Gulf war. He was playing games with the Brit and US planes in the no fly zone constantly, and he had kicked out the inspectors in 1998. Clinton ordered missile strikes in Desert Fox, to attack said WMD stock piles and at best they estimate they hit 78% of their targets. Clinton thought there were WMD’s, and Bush thought there were WMD’s. What happened to the WMD’s? That’s the real question and perhaps the scary one. One theory advanced by David Kay (or whoever the weapons inspector was) that they were probably shipped to Syria prior to the war. Yes we had intel of trucks passing over the boarder, Syria had/has a WMD program, Syria also had an illegal oil pipeline from Iraq, and Syria has a Baathist government like Iraq. Syria is also where most of those lovely foreign terrorists came over the border from to infiltrate Iraq. I find this very plausible as the amount of anthrax missing would fit into one large truck (they don’t call them WMD’s because they are big) and Saddam had YEARS to prepare. Now one thing that is apparent is that there was no full fledged WMD program going in Iraq at the time of the War. That is there were no secret factories making new ones. What is also apparent is that they were waiting for the sanctions to be lifted to begin again. They had the lab equipment, the personnel waiting for the green light. We can talk about who wanted to lift those sanctions another time.
I will also refrain from stating why invading Iraq was a good idea beyond WMD’s or the fact that 50 million people are free from truly tyrannical governments under GWB.
So I have to ask you, a few questions on your logic meter.
1. Did Bill Clinton also lie about Iraq having WMD’s?
2. If Bush lied about the WMD’s and knew it to be false, why didn’t he (being obviously evil) have some planted? It would not have been that hard. ONE soldier/agent could have planted enough Anthrax to do it. Hell they could have used the same strain as was found in the DC mail and really set it up.
According to the left GWB is both a bumbling fool, and at the same time capable of massive deception and intricate conspiracies that would make Machiavelli blush. You are going to have to trust your own judgment.