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Originally Posted by roachboy
ustwo:
from the posts of yours i have read this morning---in which, across different threads, you advocate the wolfowitz "plan" of bombing iran and syria; pronounce a series of cliches about islam in general (as a "culture of terror" as "indoctrinating children to hatred"--do you actually have any contact with any muslims? i do not see that you have the faintest idea what you are talking about...), and then here top it with the tired, false (in historical terms) opposition of evil islam versus nice christians (who, like yourself, seem too often willing to argue on racist grounds for something on the order of massacre, but that's ok---you are strong, you are righteous)...
so if i understand your very macho posts correctly, the logic goes: anything that speaks to the political causes for "terrorism" is "liberal pap" while your racist, uninformed hogwash operates as the legitimate response? quite the moral high ground you stake out here. not that different from cromwell his black and tan phase.
i assume you support bush for symmtery's sake.
or maybe this is some andy kaufman thing you are doing on a boardspace?
do you seriously believe what you post?
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Roachy I have had more contact with Muslims then most, which is why I know its hopeless. I have open invitations to visit Egypt and Jordan and stay in peoples homes while I'm there. These are friends of mine I worked with for years and who I LIKE. I've spoken at length with citizens of the Sudan, Egypt, Jordan, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan. These are the best of the best of the Islamic world, they are highly educated, and have seen more of the world then most. I spent all nighters with them, roomed with them, went out with them, met their families, taught them, and was taught by them. I offered to drive some of them home on 9/11/01 just in case there was any trouble.
I really like them as people, they are not terrorists, and the Jordanian is perhaps the most gentile man I know. That’s the good. Almost all of them but the Iranian have a totally false and warped knowledge of world history (the Iranian managed to leave Iran when he was age 20 and is quite western, he was threatened by the others but that’s another story). They talk of peace but think peace will only be achieved when the world follows Islamic law. They defend the taliban but knew nothing of the female executions (the women were very shocked by them, their state controlled media never would mention it at home). They say they have nothing against the Jews but talk of prophecy where the Jews are all forced into the sea and Israel is cleansed.
And what I've learned if this is the best the Islamic world has to offer and all but ONE of them thought this way, there is no hope currently. If these people who have stayed in the US for a number of years feel, what must the uneducated man on the street feel after he gets his daily dose of hate at the Mosque?
Months ago I posted a UN report written by Muslim scholars who were lamenting the poor quality and backwardness of education in the Islamic states. You don't have to look to hard to find out what happens if you try to express a dissenting view in these countries.
Until the Islamic nations become truly free, free to think differently, free to express themselves, free of religious oppression, we will face terrorists like we have been.