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Kalnaur · 09-08-2004, 03:00 AM

For the marq:

This is not christian ideals. This is a theory I have after many years in church and other places, nothing more.

It is usually taken for granted by most people that God all knowing. What I have never seen is anything saying he was all understanding. I could have knowledge of everything ever thought of, and without the context to understand it, it would not be worth much. So, let's say God was all knowing, but did not truly understand what it was like to be one of his creations. He feels like we're pissing him off on purpose, killing each other and causing general havok. after several attempts to fix this problem, he sends down his "son", who is one with god (I think of the Triune god like a family; there are the three parts of god, all together making the christian God. I do not believe any religion is truly monotheistic.) whom we humans named Jesus. Jesus is sent to give God an understanding of what it is to live in a human body, and die for "sins" against the church. In this way, God gains the needed understanding of who and what we as humans really are, and is able to forgive any shortcomings we have as his creations. He also understands what these sins are in context to who we as humans are and how whatever force of hurtfulness exists in the world will attempt to trump up charges against the truly good people. Where he was once frusterated with us, he now asks us to believe in his vessel of understanding, his "son". In this way we accept his understanding of us, and it is this mutual acceptance of God's understanding of our suffering that "saves" us. He will accept us as long as we chose to accept him (thus I do believe that other religions that have the same idea, god asking us to accept him, will be "saved" as well.) His son is not flesh, but was put into flesh, and is resurected as who he was before he became put into flesh. He then rejoined his dad back "up" where they live. The idea is he will come back and ask all the good little people to go up to heaven with him, eventually.

So that's my answer to questions 1-3, marq. Tell me if I went way over what you wanted, or left something out.

09-08-2004, 03:00 AM	#54 (permalink)
Kalnaur Psycho Location: Portland, Oregon	For the marq: This is not christian ideals. This is a theory I have after many years in church and other places, nothing more. It is usually taken for granted by most people that God all knowing. What I have never seen is anything saying he was all understanding. I could have knowledge of everything ever thought of, and without the context to understand it, it would not be worth much. So, let's say God was all knowing, but did not truly understand what it was like to be one of his creations. He feels like we're pissing him off on purpose, killing each other and causing general havok. after several attempts to fix this problem, he sends down his "son", who is one with god (I think of the Triune god like a family; there are the three parts of god, all together making the christian God. I do not believe any religion is truly monotheistic.) whom we humans named Jesus. Jesus is sent to give God an understanding of what it is to live in a human body, and die for "sins" against the church. In this way, God gains the needed understanding of who and what we as humans really are, and is able to forgive any shortcomings we have as his creations. He also understands what these sins are in context to who we as humans are and how whatever force of hurtfulness exists in the world will attempt to trump up charges against the truly good people. Where he was once frusterated with us, he now asks us to believe in his vessel of understanding, his "son". In this way we accept his understanding of us, and it is this mutual acceptance of God's understanding of our suffering that "saves" us. He will accept us as long as we chose to accept him (thus I do believe that other religions that have the same idea, god asking us to accept him, will be "saved" as well.) His son is not flesh, but was put into flesh, and is resurected as who he was before he became put into flesh. He then rejoined his dad back "up" where they live. The idea is he will come back and ask all the good little people to go up to heaven with him, eventually. So that's my answer to questions 1-3, marq. Tell me if I went way over what you wanted, or left something out. __________________ PC: Can you help me out here HK? HK-47: I'm 98% percent sure this miniature organic meatbag wants you to help find his fellow miniature organic meatbags. PC: And the other 2 percent? HK-47: The other 2 percent is that he is just looking for trouble and needs to be blasted, but that might be wishful thinking on my part.