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Originally Posted by Halx
There is only hurt and help. Do enough of either and you will leave your mark on the world for all to remember.
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Originally Posted by Outpour
Hurt and help relative to the doer I suppose?
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Well, with Halx's statement I don't really think it matters who the hurt/help is relative too. If you help/hurt yourself enough you will leave your mark, if you hurt/help others then you will leave your mark also.
I do agree with Halx in that I believe morals began with religion, but that does not mean that they have to be associated with religion, you can have your own set of moral values without believing in a divine power(s). Morals are merely what you believe to be right and wrong, not what an organization says is right and wrong. What is moral is not always legal, and what is legal is not always moral.