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Willravel · 09-07-2004, 08:39 PM

To vinmag7: I was once a member of a church body. I was in the Lutheran Church of Missouri Synod. The official stand, at the time, on gay's was it's a big no no in God's eyes. They said that gay people could be discommunicated (makes me sick). I wrote a letter to the then President of the Church dismissing their ruling as bigotus foolishness. I mentioned that he, being a man, probably touched himself occasionally. I mentioned that he did work on Sundays. I mentioned a hell of a lot of things that he did that went completly against God's rules. I told him that excommunication for being gay will go down in history along side all the other atrocities foolish people have made in Gods name.
Now, to set the record straight (no pun intended), I am not gay. I have gay friends, but morally, I find it to be questionable. The difference between me and the church is my acceptance and willingness not to force my beliefs on people.
Yes, it is morally wrong to push your own beliefs with questionable interpretations of the bible. Yes, it's wrong to treat someone differently because of race, gender, sexual prefrence, or anything else of that nature.
BUT, I don't agree with you. You infer that people should believe all or nothing of the bible. That's very simple logic that isn't applicable in this situation. The bible doesn't lie. People misuse the word of God to supposrt pety arguments that God probably doesn't care about. I can appreciate what you are trying to say. Yes, homosexuality is probably put in the same place as shellfish (still looking for that verse) as far as the bible, but so also are murder and jelousy. Can you imagine living without killing other people? I hope so. Can you live without being jelous? Probably not. Let's just say that a lot of people misunderstand the bibles lessons about homosexuality. Remember, Jesus would regularly dine with prostatutes. His lesson was tollerance. That's what these hypocrits choose to ignore.
I'm sure if He came today, He'd be teaching the same thing, whether He supported being gay or not.

09-07-2004, 08:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	To vinmag7: I was once a member of a church body. I was in the Lutheran Church of Missouri Synod. The official stand, at the time, on gay's was it's a big no no in God's eyes. They said that gay people could be discommunicated (makes me sick). I wrote a letter to the then President of the Church dismissing their ruling as bigotus foolishness. I mentioned that he, being a man, probably touched himself occasionally. I mentioned that he did work on Sundays. I mentioned a hell of a lot of things that he did that went completly against God's rules. I told him that excommunication for being gay will go down in history along side all the other atrocities foolish people have made in Gods name. Now, to set the record straight (no pun intended), I am not gay. I have gay friends, but morally, I find it to be questionable. The difference between me and the church is my acceptance and willingness not to force my beliefs on people. Yes, it is morally wrong to push your own beliefs with questionable interpretations of the bible. Yes, it's wrong to treat someone differently because of race, gender, sexual prefrence, or anything else of that nature. BUT, I don't agree with you. You infer that people should believe all or nothing of the bible. That's very simple logic that isn't applicable in this situation. The bible doesn't lie. People misuse the word of God to supposrt pety arguments that God probably doesn't care about. I can appreciate what you are trying to say. Yes, homosexuality is probably put in the same place as shellfish (still looking for that verse) as far as the bible, but so also are murder and jelousy. Can you imagine living without killing other people? I hope so. Can you live without being jelous? Probably not. Let's just say that a lot of people misunderstand the bibles lessons about homosexuality. Remember, Jesus would regularly dine with prostatutes. His lesson was tollerance. That's what these hypocrits choose to ignore. I'm sure if He came today, He'd be teaching the same thing, whether He supported being gay or not.