interesting--in my case i became more politically radical as i got older--but the political aspects move and have moved along a line seperate from making sonic chaos...the two paths chatter back and forth to each other, but they dont have any more direct link that i can determine.
alot of the above has to do i think with finding the effects of growing up in a small new hampshire town were much deeper than i had imagined, and that a political awareness, for me at least, had to wait until fighting against that inherited frame of reference played itself out. things started as inchoate rebellion, gradually that dropped away, eventually was replaced by a much different kind of relation to the world around me.
the diversion in the thread might be interesting--once it became a kind of metaconversation, i started thinking about the conditions that inform problems with talking constructively (or keeping that inmind as a possibility when things turn polemical) and realized that the complications that come up are probably symptoms of the ways in which people come to fashion political positions/worldviews (politics as a way of extending local experience outward, of framing it, as a mode of trying to process the world)--and that the discussion seemed from there to lead to questions of how people make these positions for themselves, where they moved from, where they moved to, what prompted the shift, how they see their own pasts, etc.
and the same thought lead to a consideration of limits on how self-aware people might be on this kind of shift--not that people do not know, but that they look at their positions from the inside...but it would seem less an inevitable relation for folk who have shifted more across their lives.
so discussion about discussion seems to lead to trying to talk about the kind of relations that structure discussion. dont know if this is the best place to pose this order of question--but i would be interested to see what came of it, should folk react here or in another thread....
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