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Ratzil · 09-06-2004, 08:10 AM

I think the topic of this thread is not so much the war on iraq but rather the one on terror. Of course both are somewhat related but the objective was not to deal a deadly blow to the terrorists of the world but to remove an "unjust" regime and search and destroy a stockpile of yet to be found WMD. Saddam was also never characterized as a terrorist leader but as a unjust dictator of a sovereign country that might have had links to prominent figures among terrorsts.

The topic of this thread isnt GWB either imho. Hes just the messenger that brings no news but states the obvious so the ordinary Joe can slowly come to terms with the fact that this war ( the one on terror, remember?) will go on for longer than he lives. So the ordinary Joe can slowly come to terms with the fact that the restrictions of his freedom brought to him by the patriot act are not a temporary matter that will be reverted after a successful war. They are there for good now protecting the precious homeland.

What i find much more interesting that some goverments seem to have a fondness to start Wars that are unwinnable by default. Remember the War on Drugs? Any idiot could have told you before that those Wars are never winnable. Also they have the audacity to call this shemes War making it much more imposing. Losing a War is much worse than losing a fight. If you lose a War you lose everything, so losing is no alternative, you have to win. Fighting a battle you are not alowed to lose but cannot win, thats crazy. I would wagger it makes one crazy too.

The question remains why declare to start such a doomed enterprise in the first place. Actions speak louder than words some say, so why not act in a way that fewer people hate you so much that they dont care if they die as long as they kill you in the process. I know this point is moot and what done is done but i firmly believe that this is the heart of the problem. Terrorists dont wake up one sunny morning and say : " By Jolly what a fine day i think ill strap on the old C4 here and go for a walk in the mall and see what happens."

09-06-2004, 08:10 AM	#74 (permalink)
Ratzil Upright	I think the topic of this thread is not so much the war on iraq but rather the one on terror. Of course both are somewhat related but the objective was not to deal a deadly blow to the terrorists of the world but to remove an "unjust" regime and search and destroy a stockpile of yet to be found WMD. Saddam was also never characterized as a terrorist leader but as a unjust dictator of a sovereign country that might have had links to prominent figures among terrorsts. The topic of this thread isnt GWB either imho. Hes just the messenger that brings no news but states the obvious so the ordinary Joe can slowly come to terms with the fact that this war ( the one on terror, remember?) will go on for longer than he lives. So the ordinary Joe can slowly come to terms with the fact that the restrictions of his freedom brought to him by the patriot act are not a temporary matter that will be reverted after a successful war. They are there for good now protecting the precious homeland. What i find much more interesting that some goverments seem to have a fondness to start Wars that are unwinnable by default. Remember the War on Drugs? Any idiot could have told you before that those Wars are never winnable. Also they have the audacity to call this shemes War making it much more imposing. Losing a War is much worse than losing a fight. If you lose a War you lose everything, so losing is no alternative, you have to win. Fighting a battle you are not alowed to lose but cannot win, thats crazy. I would wagger it makes one crazy too. The question remains why declare to start such a doomed enterprise in the first place. Actions speak louder than words some say, so why not act in a way that fewer people hate you so much that they dont care if they die as long as they kill you in the process. I know this point is moot and what done is done but i firmly believe that this is the heart of the problem. Terrorists dont wake up one sunny morning and say : " By Jolly what a fine day i think ill strap on the old C4 here and go for a walk in the mall and see what happens."