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Originally Posted by Moonduck
"The question becomes, are you better off being killed by the attacker?"
What the fuck?
Excuse my language, but I am in no way, shape, or form conversant with any individual that feels that they would be better off allowing someone to kill them rather than taking the chance of killing their attacker simply because they might have some tough emotional consequences. I am doubly certain that anyone willing to contemplate carrying a gun is even more unlikely to have such an insipid and self-defeating idea rummaging around in their head.
There is no equation wherein I would rather die than take the chance of killing some criminal bent on killing me or mine. That is not macho bravado either, that is simple survival of self talking. If you do not possess a similar will to survive, please do your species a favour and do not breed. That is not a trait that is conducive to the continued survival of the human race as a whole.
This is not intended as a flame, please do not take it as such, though I realize it sounds like it. Honestly, survival of the species is terribly important. Regardless of how you or anyone else feels about guns or self-defense, defense of self is hard-wired into any successful higher organism, and is generally trumped only by defense of offspring.
The "you" being used above is not intended to be aimed at the poster to whom I am responding, but is aimed at the hypothetical individual that is so pathetic as to willing to die rather than to fight to continue their own existence.
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I think he meant, if someone is just going to rob you, a lot of times it better to just hand over what they want and nobody gets hurt, than to pull out a gun and then it turns into a situation where SOMEBODY is going to get killed.
I personally would rather have my phone stolen and my wallet than kill someone, but it depends on the situation... there can be situations where the best option might be to shoot for sure - an attempted sexual attack for example.
I dont think the comment was about a "kill or be killed" situation... but rather about how a gun can escalate a simple purse snatching into... well, a shooting.
But at the end of the day, this thread doesnt seem to be so much about whether this woman wants a gun or not, but rather what type. I think, definitely, one thing that must be said though... is dont carry a gun unless you are ultimately prepared to use it. And she would need to feel like she was, in order for it to be a good idea for her to have one I guess... but its a balance.... you know, if some 14 year old cocks his fists and says "give your cell phone now" and you blast him...