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Old 09-04-2004, 05:57 AM   #37 (permalink)
Moonduck
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Location: SE USA
Kurtz:
100% energy dump vs pass-through and energy lost out of the back-side of the target.

Energy dump does mean something. Basic physics tells us that an object that stops entirely is shedding more energy than an object that simply slows a bit and keeps going. Are you arguing that a round that passes through a target does more damage than a ballistically equivalent round that stops in the target?

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FuriousM:
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Originally Posted by Furious M
Moonduck, I don't generally respond to flamers so I'm going to make this brief.

You can praise the effectiveness of a 9mm over a .40 based on what it says on paper all you want. My opinion on the differences between the rounds comes from actual shooting experience with them, not what it says should happen on paper. I've shot a hell of a lot of rounds through both guns, and my observations lead me to say pick the .40 over the 9mm if you're looking for protection. If you disagree with me fine, that's your opinion, but don't assume someone doesn't know jack about guns because they happen to disagree with you.
Reread my post. I did not praise the 9mm over the .40s&w. I said there was insufficient difference for the magic-bullet BS that is constantly spouted about .40s&w. Oddly enough, I happen to own guns in both calibers as well, a Glock 19, an H&K USP in .40, and a S&W Shorty Forty (that I'm trying unsuccessfully to sell). I will take the Glock 19's 15rds of tolerable 9mm over the USP's 10rds (can't be arsed to find LE mags for the minor increase in capacity) of marginally better .40 any day.

I will continue to say that someone doesn't know jack when they assert that two rounds perform radically differently when evidence shows otherwise. If you were arguing the relative merits of .357 magnum over 9mm, or .40 over .380acp, I'd be with you. There are substantive differences. Given the guns in which 9mm, and .40 are chambered, the applications to which they are intended, and the relative performance of each using similar quality load/bullet construction, there is simply not enough difference to justify the hype.
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