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Originally Posted by OpieCunningham
Being disowned by another group of Chechens is 100% irrelevant to the point I have made, which you clearly refuse to see. Why you refuse to see it is beyond me, but I believe it has something to do with your belief that "there is no excuse for terrorism, period, therefore there is excuse for Stalinist dictatorships".
Which simply doesn't make a damn bit of sense.
When you start making some sense, please come back to the discussion. Thanks.
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This is my final post to this thread, which you successfully hijacked. Congratulations! :-)
1) I never said there is no excuse for terrorism, period. In fact, I explicitly said the opposite. Check it if you want.
2) I
did say that there was no excuse for child murder. Ever. I even referenced other terrorist organisations that systematically do this and I don't support them (or their cause, no matter how laudable).
3) Stop parroting the word Stalinist about just because it was used in a headline somewhere. You yourself admitted, and I quote you directly, "It may not be an environment that matches the scope of lives affected of the environment that Stalin created..." Stalin instituted a state wide, oppresive, insipid and comprehensive prevalent system whereby the whole country began to destroy itself. Children denounced parents. Wives denounced husbands. Parents children. There were show trials. There were purges. There were systematic persecution of Jews and Kulaks. There were industrial level prison and later death camps. This is not happening in Chechnya, and you belittle the crimes of Stalin by so implying. What is happening in Chechnya is criminal, but not Stalinist.
So there you have it.
Blatant and intentional misquoting and misinterpretation of what was said. You see, the funny thing is I understand your position. Russia is perpetrating crimes in Chechnya. But the whole point of my thread was based upon the crimes of a particularly ruthless band of criminals who have murdered and taken children hostage. You tried to turn it into some kind of political rant about Russian polices in the North Caucasus.
Go figure.
Mr Mephisto
PS - I now notice that you have descended into personal insult. Hopefully a mod will lock this now.