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Originally Posted by Mr Mephisto
I think it's fair to state a personal and emotional opinion on someone who takes children hostage, refuse to allow them food and water and threaten to execute them.
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As long as we're clear your response was emotional. My question is one of logic, so "these people are scum" does not address the question.
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You are making a fundamental mistake in logic and do yourself and me a disfavour.
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No, I think we already determined that your emotional response is the mistake in logic, by nature.
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If I wanted to fight for my liberty? Well, my country did this not long ago. My grandfather fought in our War of Independence and the subsequent Civil War. Children were not kidnapped and murdered.
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I have already pointed out how the situation for the Chechens differs greatly from a the Revolutionary War. I'm not certain which country you are referring to - but I expect some or all of the same differences I highlighted would apply.
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Hard call. Personally, whilst I believe some things are worth fighting and even killing for (in military terms), I don't believe in murdering children. I'm sorry you seem to be justifying it.
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I don't believe in murdering children either. If I were a Chechen, I would probably be killed by the Russian military. This action would not help any other Chechen and if all Chechens were like me, they would all be killed.
I don't believe in genocide.
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There are many additional options including, but not limited to, the following obvious additions.
4 - political means
5 - guerilla war (excluding terrorism; ie attacks on schools and hospitals)
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4- What political means? No other country has stepped up to do anything other than some exceptionally mild form of appeasement to Human Rights organizations. Political means is the same thing as my Gandhi solution. The rest of the world has never been interested in helping the Chechens.
5- This has been going on for years. It hasn't stopped the Stalinist tactics of the Russians at all.
The point of my question is that it is all well and easy to say "Damn those terrorist bastards!" - but the world is not as simple as that, as much as we might want it to be.