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Originally Posted by whocarz
We have people who's job is to go into a building and kill hostage takers while saving hostages. That's all they do. They train for these kinds of situations all the time. They eat, breathe and shit this stuff. I think it comes down to a question of training. The Russians aren't nearly as well trained for these things.
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What makes you think this? They have
FAR more experience than the Americans have. The
ONLY situation where American forces tried this ended in farce and multiple deaths during the attempt to rescue the Iranian hostages back in 1980.
The Russians have been experiencing this kind of attack for years, and responding for years.
Smells like typical "America is better than the rest of the world" bullshit to me.
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The Spetznaz is trained to kill, that's it. There is no saving of hostages. If the hostages manage to survive somehow, then that's a plus.
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Again, this is nonesense. For the record, Spetznaz are military special forces, and not those primarily tasked with anti-kidnapping or hostage situations. I should have made this clear. This is usually left to the so-called "Alpha" unit (created by Andropov in 1974) and OMON units (part of the MVD, or Department of the Interior).
They ALL have considerably more experience and success than untested American units.
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This is why the Russians have such a bad record when it comes to these situations. There are quiet a few hostage or barricaded suspect incidents each year in the United States, but they normally end with only the badguys in bodybags.
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Well, this mass generalization shows you don't really understand the issues.
One or two criminals holed up in a bank, faced with a SWAT team, is not the same as what the Russians are dealing with.
Mr Mephisto