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Mephisto2 · 08-31-2004, 10:19 PM

matthew, if you really think that the current opinion of America in Europe is no different from that held only a few years ago, then you are sorely mistaken.

As one of the contemporaneous "young Europeans" you refer to, I can assure you that the world's opinion of the USA is measurably WORSE now than it has ever been.

I myself spend hours defending America with my friends. I keep telling them "It's not the country, it's the current Administration you should be angry with." Unfortunately not many of them agree and they now have a strong distaste for the country as a whole. This is a shame, for the world would be a much worse place without America. But even I (who believes in the inherent goodwill and positive nature of the US) think that the world would be a better place with GWB gone.

The man has done a disservice to your country (in my opinion), has made several fundamental mistakes and is a driving force for dissention and knee-jerk reactionism in American politics. How many Americans believe Hussein was directly (or even indirectly) responsible for 9/11? A great deal. And that is a lie. He brought your country to war on the basis of falsehoods and continues to do harm around the world. America (not Bush) is a force for good and I believe it will outlast and hopefully outgrow the harm he has done it. Even if it takes another four years to get rid of him... But harm it he has and the sooner he is out of the White House the better.

It's not even just the war in Iraq. It's about environmentalism, fundamentalism (yes, ]Christian fundamentalism), inequitable social policies, "big business" politics, unilateralism, trade... the list goes on and on.

I love America, as much as a typical, liberal minded non-American can, but I have a stong distate and dislike (verging on fear and hatred) of Bush and his cronies.

And THAT my friend is what is worrying. If your friends begin to dislike you, then you must be doing something wrong...

Mr Mephisto

08-31-2004, 10:19 PM	#24 (permalink)
Mephisto2 Junkie	matthew, if you really think that the current opinion of America in Europe is no different from that held only a few years ago, then you are sorely mistaken. As one of the contemporaneous "young Europeans" you refer to, I can assure you that the world's opinion of the USA is measurably WORSE now than it has ever been. I myself spend hours defending America with my friends. I keep telling them "It's not the country, it's the current Administration you should be angry with." Unfortunately not many of them agree and they now have a strong distaste for the country as a whole. This is a shame, for the world would be a much worse place without America. But even I (who believes in the inherent goodwill and positive nature of the US) think that the world would be a better place with GWB gone. The man has done a disservice to your country (in my opinion), has made several fundamental mistakes and is a driving force for dissention and knee-jerk reactionism in American politics. How many Americans believe Hussein was directly (or even indirectly) responsible for 9/11? A great deal. And that is a lie. He brought your country to war on the basis of falsehoods and continues to do harm around the world. America (not Bush) is a force for good and I believe it will outlast and hopefully outgrow the harm he has done it. Even if it takes another four years to get rid of him... But harm it he has and the sooner he is out of the White House the better. It's not even just the war in Iraq. It's about environmentalism, fundamentalism (yes, ]Christian fundamentalism), inequitable social policies, "big business" politics, unilateralism, trade... the list goes on and on. I love America, as much as a typical, liberal minded non-American can, but I have a stong distate and dislike (verging on fear and hatred) of Bush and his cronies. And THAT my friend is what is worrying. If your friends begin to dislike you, then you must be doing something wrong... Mr Mephisto Last edited by Mephisto2; 08-31-2004 at 10:23 PM..