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Originally Posted by triad
raeanna74, wasn't what Franklin, as well as other enlightenment thinkers, belive in Deism? Which, and I could be wrong" is the belife that God set everything into motion and then left?
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I don't know about Franklin personally but people such as Jefferson in the Enlightenment were Deist. They do not believe in any type of miracles but instead believe that the world was set in motion by God in the form of "laws" such as gravity. And within these laws, the world grew. Thus, any type of miracle would be breaking God's own law rendering God inperfect.
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2. I read in a book called A Brief History of Everything by Ken Wilber, something akin to the following: That if you consider the permutation and combination of molecules to form the DNA structure of humans to have occured more or less randomly to find favored combinations for survival, that this process would take something on the order of a 100 billion years, minimum. Our best estimates are that the universe is 13 - 15 billion years old. Thus, there would not have been enough time for a process based on simple random chance to have produced us. I don't say that it's proof, but I think it's an interesting point that there is more going on than meets the analytical, objective eye of "science."
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Yes, it may be true it would take 100 billion years. but there is no "minimum" i believe. the "randomeness" is statistic and anonmoly is in fact very probable. Thus, i don't think it's important to question whether or not it's probable because the very fact that we are here to question this signifies the millions of other more probable universes exist without intelligent being to raise this very question. As time and space goes through every possible combination defined in the quantum mechanical universe, no matter how improbable, out of all the possibility, there must be one in which intelligeble being exist within the "13-15 billion" years.
now i'm repeating myself. but the point is the very fact that we exist along with the theory of multiple history along with the theory of alternate universe demonstrates that to question the probablity of our existance is essentially pointless as we do exist.