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Originally Posted by willravel
As for the Second Ammendment, I don't agree with the supreme court. You know what? That's okay. I would never brake the laws just because I don't agree with them, thus I would never take your guns, BUT that doesn't mean I have to agree with you. As for whos buisness this is, most of this is noones buisness, mine or yours. What I am talking about is so general, that it can't be applied to being just your buisness. I'm a little surprised that you compared gun ownership with some private act in the bedroom (probably hinting at sexual acts). Are you serious? I might as weell compare gun ownership to abortion or taxes. "Why do you feel compelled to protect people from themselves?" Good question. Hmmm. It's the right thing to do. I mean if Jesus did it, and Ghandi did it, it doesn't seem to be so terribly evil or bad. Besides, I'm not forcing my beleifs on others. That WOULD be wrong. I am having a discussion with someone that has a different opinnion. Are you really going to incite that is wrong? If you could have stopped what happened with the Heavens Gate suicides, would you have? According to what you said, you would say no. According to you, saving others from themselves is not something we should be compelled to do! And shame on me for doing something about it.
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Although you may never personally take my guns, if laws was passed and the police or military was ordered to take my guns, wouldn't you at least be partially responsible, along with all the other people that voted for gun control, for taking guns away from law abiding citizens, if in fact you voted for gun control? Would that suddenly make it ok to circumvent the 2nd amendment? Aren't you in fact forcing your beliefs onto others, albeit in a "legal" way? It's my belief that it shouldn't even be an issue in any election period. I compared it to sexual acts in the bedroom for two reasons, one being what happens there is noone's business, i.e., if someone chooses to be a firearm owner its noone's business but his or her own and two, the government already has it's nose where it don't belong. Did you know it's illegal in some states to have sex in any position other than the "missionary position"? Now that you mention it, abortion is much along the same lines, the government has no business meddling in a personal decision, not to mention it's the religious right pressing their beliefs on the general population much like the left pressing their beliefs on gun control. Seems to me to be total BS, do I as say not as I do crap. I personally believe abortion is murder, but that's my opinion so when I vote I leave that out of my decision on whom to vote for. I've voted for pro-life candidates as well as pro-abortion candidates. Do you leave gun control out of the equation when you vote for a candidate? If you don't then I argue you are forcing your beliefs onto others.
No I don't feel compelled to save someone from themselves if they are over 18 and of sound mind. One could argue that anyone who wishes to take their own life isn't of sound mind, so depending on the circumstances I may or may not have felt compelled to stop the suicides at Heaven's Gate. I wasn't there nor did I have to make that decision so anything I say at this point would be pure conjecture with absolutely no meaning. I'm not attempting to shame you or anything like that, on trying to save someone from themselves, merely pointing out that one needs to be careful in doing so they don't take unalienable rights away from others.