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Old 08-28-2004, 12:23 AM   #70 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Rdr4evr
That is the problem. Either way he does not have nearly enough supporters to ever put him in office. American citizens only see Democrat and Republican, they are blind to independent. I wish this was not the case, but unfortunately it is, and it is not going to change anytime soon. Therefore, a vote for Nader is wasted because he does not stand a chance in hell. Why let a man who has done nothing positive for this country have another 4 years to destroy it just because you think you are being heard and standing up for your beliefs. Although I respect nothing more than that normally; in this case, Bushie is counting on the 3% 3rd party voters to keep him in office, and will use that against you as well once he is in office.


If you ONLY could choose between the two, which would it be? If your answer is Kerry, than read what I said above.



Yes, they do get what they deserve, but the 50% of us who did not vote him in, will get the same negative treatment as them.



Cant argue with that, look at the last election. But at the same time, we cant go on assumptions.
I respect your wish to vote for the candidate of your choosing.

I don't vote for democrat or republican citizens' votes. I don't even vote for what's best for this country. I vote for what's best in my interests. I happen to think that my interests are the best course this nation could take in its development.

But I refuse to accep the notion that I owe this country anything. This nation is formed on a document and its only purpose is to serve me and others who entered a contract with it when we remain citizens.

Once it ceases to serve my interests, I will go someplace that I feel does serve my interests. Over time, people have migrated in that past and there are all types of ideologies that have coalesced in various parts of the world. The cool thing about his nation is how fluid it purports to be. The idea is tha t enough people can get together and change its course. I haven't seen it in my lifetime, but I have read about it occurring in the past.

But the only person I care about when I cast a vote is myself. That's the most personal thing that we do in this country. It's even one of the last anonymous things we do--if that tells you anything about its sanctity.I would much rather vote for something I believed in and lose than vote for something I didn't really believe in and win.

I think a lot of US citizens feel like I do and I think the refusal to engage that attitude is a critical mistake of Kerry's. The people who support Bush don't always like or agree with his statements, but they sure seem to support him and respect the fact that he sure believes in what he's doing. They even seem willing to give him a pass on misjudgements based on the fact that he was doing what he believed in.

I think that's due to our notions of the value of entrepreneurial attitudes, individualism, investing, and risk-taking in the quest for future dividends, etc.
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