No, roachboy, I'm not going there.
Such doctrinaire positions must stand on their own.
I will say that each of your demonstrations can apply equally to both sides of the political spectrum. Evidence is ample for both positions. This would be a dead end in a discussion where we have made some constructive headway. That's the nature of political discourse today. The only reason I mentioned this at all is because of the continuing assignment of certain misuses of media power to the right.
This could be carried forth in the Politics Forum but, as you may have noticed, I am evidencing signs of complete boredom there.
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