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Originally Posted by wilbjammin
Additionally, I was talking about shutting off emotions to have sex with people "just for fun". I don't think that having sex "just for fun" pays much respect to the person you're having sex with, yourself, and the act of metaphorically entering another or being entered by another because of the way humans are. Porn is a different issue, I see the process of viewing porn more as a mind-numbing and divisive event rather than one in which respect is an issue. Certainly, those in the porn seem to have very little respect for each other, and that can be problematic. But from the surveyor's perspective, that can be a little different.
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Well I respect your position and I understand where you are coming from and certainly there are points that are worthy. The problem I have with your dictum is that it is so broadly sweeping and categorizes or assimilates everyone as the same. Atleast that's my interpretation.We are not all the same as individuals although we share similarities.
I think you give far to little credit to individuals as such. Your beer analogy I believe doesn't hold water, at least not objectively. Sure it is possible that what you relate to can happen and be viewed as normal,instinctual,traditional all or none of the above,.. but where do you put the people who don't follow that influence? If my family has a history of problem drinkers, will I follow suit? What if I don't?
Having sex just for fun. Have you ever had sex just for fun? I have. As a matter of fact I have also had many several one night stands over the last 25 years also. Again the question of respect and individuality. Yes some people have little or no respect for others or themselves. So what. That is a characteristic of their being. But again, what about the people like me? I respect myself, others and believe it or not share an emotional bond with someone I very well may never see again. Maybe they do too, maybe they don't. I'm o.k. with that because as a person, or a being, I know, I am honest and understand myself.
I have been in non-commital relationships for a decade, where sex is just that, sex. Believe it or not there are people who don't want "normal" relationships perse. Is the sex emotionally disconnected? No. Is sex just for sex sakes disrespectful to me or others? No,..but it can be if people don't understand who and what they are. No this isn't a figment of my imagination. It is who I am. Tell me I don't respect myself or others and I will tell you that you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
As for the porn issue, everyone has a right to their own opinion and I accept those opinions as neither right nor wrong. People make decisions. Some good, some bad,(in the industry) but the point is that it is their individual decision whether it is well thought out or flagrantly not. What people take from it is also individual whether as a participant or viewer.
This isn't meant to be disrespectful but have you ever had sex just for fun? Would you know if you did? Ever had a one night stand? If not, go and try it and then try and apply your theories to your experiences. This may sound completely ridiculous to you but as a person who has had sex in loving, caring, monogamous relationships and sex where no love is involved, believe or not, the differences aren't that much. The reason; Sex is Sex. Does it mean more one way or the other? To some it does, to some it doesn't. It all depends who you are and how one interprets sex as an individual. There are no right or wrong answers.
You seem very knowledgeble. Again, not to be disrespectful but go and figure it out from an experienced based level. I am not saying you got your opinions from a book, but if you did, books are for reading, life is for living and experiencing. Go push your sexual boundaries and analyse your findings. I'm willing to bet if you do it honestly, some of your opinions about sex in general will change.